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re: Healthcare costs make no sense ($11k for an FNA biopsy)
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:56 am to LemmyLives
Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:56 am to LemmyLives
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So the labor and education of doctors, nurses and PAs has no value?
I didn't say anything like that.
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Because there is no incentive for someone not to go to urgent care for a splinter, or a sneeze "just in case."
They shouldn't have to hit the ER for that stuff. That's the whole point. Preventive and available general care would do so much to alleviate the whole problem.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:08 am to jlovel7
Had surgery for torn meniscus in May. Had conscious sedation, procedure took about 15 minutes then another hour in recovery room. Dr charge was around $4000 the hospital charge was $82000. Had to pay around $1500 out of pocket.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:11 am to wesfau
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I didn't say anything like that.
You said healthcare shouldn't be treated like a good or service. There are people and costs behind every even minor visit.
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available general care would do so much to alleviate the whole problem
I said urgent care, not the ER, for a reason. The "general care" you speak of is urgent care, local clinics, etc. They would get hammered for requests for service because of the lack of cost.
I thought Obamacare was supposed to have everyone healthy, with no cost preventative services. Here is the list of services that are already low or no cost per the ACA:
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Abdominal aortic aneurysm one-time screening for men of specified ages who have ever smoked
Alcohol misuse screening and counseling
Aspirin use to prevent cardiovascular disease and colorectal cancer for adults 50 to 59 years with a high cardiovascular risk
Blood pressure screening
Cholesterol screening for adults of certain ages or at higher risk
Colorectal cancer screening for adults 45 to 75 years
Depression screening
Diabetes (Type 2) screening for adults 40 to 70 years who are overweight or obese
Diet counseling for adults at higher risk for chronic disease
Fall prevention (with exercise or physical therapy and vitamin D use) for adults 65 years and over, living in a community setting
Hepatitis B screening for people at high risk, including people from countries with 2% or more Hepatitis B prevalence, and U.S.-born people not vaccinated as infants and with at least one parent born in a region with 8% or more Hepatitis B prevalence.
Hepatitis C screening for adults 18 to 79 years
HIV screening for everyone 15 to 65 years, and other ages at increased risk
PrEP (pre-exposure prophylaxis) HIV prevention medication for HIV-negative adults at high risk for getting HIV through sex or injection drug use
Immunizations for adults — doses, recommended ages, and recommended populations vary:
Chickenpox (Varicella)
Diphtheria
Flu (influenza)
Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Measles
Meningococcal
Mumps
Whooping Cough (Pertussis)
Pneumococcal
Rubella
Shingles
Tetanus
Lung cancer screening for adults 50 to 80 years at high risk for lung cancer because they’re heavy smokers or have quit in the past 15 years
Obesity screening and counseling
Sexually transmitted infection (STI) prevention counseling for adults at higher risk
Statin preventive medication for adults 40 to 75 years at high risk
Syphilis screening for adults at higher risk
Tobacco use screening for all adults and cessation interventions for tobacco users
Tuberculosis screening for certain adults without symptoms at high risk
Welp, it sure seems to be working out great.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:48 am to LemmyLives
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You said healthcare shouldn't be treated like a good or service.
That is worlds away from saying there is no value in their training/skills.
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I said urgent care, not the ER, for a reason. The "general care" you speak of is urgent care, local clinics, etc. They would get hammered for requests for service because of the lack of cost.
As they should. Prevention and basic treatment will alleviate much downstream stress on the system (ie - people using ERs for colds).
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I thought Obamacare was supposed to have everyone healthy, with no cost preventative services. Here is the list of services that are already low or no cost per the ACA...Welp, it sure seems to be working out great.
The neutered version of the ACA that made it through is not exactly implementation of the original vision. So, yes, the results have been underwhelming thus far.
Posted on 11/7/25 at 10:59 am to wesfau
Whats the plan now?
It's the #1 cause of bankruptcy in America
It's the #1 cause of bankruptcy in America
Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:03 am to Tmcgin
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Whats the plan now?
It's the #1 cause of bankruptcy in America
You either remove medical collections from adverse credit reporting (it's own whole problem altogether) or you go to single payer.
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