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re: grand jury does it again. holy hell......here we go
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:56 pm to tylercsbn9
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:56 pm to tylercsbn9
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Part of what baffles me about the race baiters. I assume it is on purpose because no one can be dumb enough to think Mike Brown was a legit case unless you're blinded by color. The dude in NYC is the prefect case of cops doing horrid shite, yet it doesn't get near the attention. It must be on purpose.
I don't agree with you on the statement of this being a case of police doing horrid shite. The guy might have been a nice guy that was wrong place, wrong time but police have to plan for worse case scenario.
The resisted when he started telling them not to touch him while they were trying to handcuff him and yanking his hands away. Even when the guy says he can't breathe, what if they let off him and he pulled a knife and stabbed a couple of them? It sucks that the guy died but not long ago, everyone screamed that using a taser was too much force and the cops should grab people. Well, they grabbed this guy and he died, now what?
The guy obviously had health issues in hindsight but there is no way that the cops know that when approaching him.
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:28 pm to REG861
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If the officer hadn't used illegal force (by NYPD standards) for a nonviolent criminal who was selling frickign cigarettes, the guy would still be alive. Perhaps you'd care to move to another society where people can be killed for such trivial acts. May I suggest Iran?
The officer broke a rule by choking the suspect, he didn't break the law. Breaking a rule is not breaking the law.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:33 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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The officer broke a rule by choking the suspect, he didn't break the law. Breaking a rule is not breaking the law.
Why does the rule exist?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:41 pm to LSUZouave
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I'm sure the fact that he was 350 lbs had nothing to do with his death
... And that it had nothing to do with the choke hold or them pressing on him after being cuffed...
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:42 pm to StrongSafety
quote:bullshite. O'Reilly debunked that with statistics last night. Cops kill way more white perps than black one.
Throughout the last 20-30 years, are have been far more cases like EG than MB.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:45 pm to Geauxtiga
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bullshite. O'Reilly debunked that with statistics last night. Cops kill way more white perps than black one.
How does that debunk what you quoted?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:45 pm to oldcharlie8
My STELLAR post from the other thread going to be whacked and I didn't want you fine people to be without
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figured- based on the Ferguson one- it would either be pinnedquote:
You'd think. Give it a day, Chief Jay Strongbow will be burned in effigy soon
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:45 pm to REG861
quote:Back up...if the retard submits to the arrest he's still alive too.
If the officer hadn't used illegal force (by NYPD standards) for a nonviolent criminal who was selling frickign cigarettes, the guy would still be alive.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:46 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:It doesn't, O'Reily did.
How does that debunk what you quoted?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:54 pm to Geauxtiga
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It doesn't, O'Reily did.
Try using your words
What you posted had zero relevance to what you quoted
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:55 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:Try following. It was twofold.
Try using your words
What you posted had zero relevance to what you quoted
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:02 pm to Geauxtiga
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Try following. It was twofold.
What was?
How was it debunked?
I can't follow if you do not provide anything of substance. You said he debunked it but leave out how it was debunked
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:04 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:Oh really? So why aren't you asking him to provide a link to substantiate what he said, that I said O'Reily debunked? Cause you're being a dick.
I can't follow if you do not provide anything of substance. You said he debunked it but leave out how it was debunked
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:09 pm to TigerBait1127
I've been hearing Martial Arts experts saying it wasn't a choke. They're saying it was a headlock with a takedown.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:09 pm to Geauxtiga
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So why aren't you asking him to provide a link to substantiate what he said, that I said O'Reily debunked?
Well that is a confusing sentence.
You said that it was debunked with statistics, yet never said how. I'm curious.
I'm not sure how one could prove/disprove the sentence you quoted.
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Cause you're being a dick.
For asking you to support what you claimed was backed up with statistics? I think that is being pretty reasonable.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:09 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:You know...? the wrestler? Best known for his "sleeper hold" technique? C'mon people.. this shite is gold.
Chief Jay Strongbow
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:11 pm to TigerBait1127
3X as many whites are killed by police fire than blacks. 123 blacks killed by police last year to over 300 whites.
There is no epidemic nor is there an increase over the last 30 years, like he said. In fact there's a HUGE decrease.
There is no epidemic nor is there an increase over the last 30 years, like he said. In fact there's a HUGE decrease.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:12 pm to Jcorye1
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Honestly, the way the master settlement agreement is set up, you can't just issue citations. It could cost the states hundreds of millions.
New York is all about the broken window theory. Small crimes lead to big crimes and create blighted neighborhoods according to the theory. So, it is NYC's policy to aggressively police petty crimes such as selling loose cigarettes or vandalism.
And, they tend to send "surges" of 6,000 rookies into low-income neighborhoods as a show of force twice a year. Some of these rookies are less than a week out of the academy and are virtually unsupervised.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:13 pm to Geauxtiga
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3X as many whites are killed by police fire than blacks. 123 blacks killed by police last year to over 300 whites.
So how does that debunk this sentence:
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Throughout the last 20-30 years, are have been far more cases like EG than MB.
Not sure why that is surprising statistic anyways.
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There is no epidemic nor is there an increase over the last 30 years, like he said. In fact there's a HUGE decrease.
Well that isn't what he said in the sentence you quoted. He was saying that there have been more unnecessary deaths (EG) than in a situation were excessive force may be necessary (MB)
Also, that shouldn't be surprising either. There's been a huge decrease in most violent statistics. That doesn't mean you ignore murders, rapes, etc.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:35 pm to meauxjeaux2
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I've been hearing Martial Arts experts saying it wasn't a choke. They're saying it was a headlock with a takedown.
This is the most important point to decide to indict or not. Otherwise get on the city's arse.
No one has mentioned that people were suggesting non-lethal force could have saved M.B. and other lives. I didn't even see a gun pulled. This one was definitely not a white cop looking to kill a black person.
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