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re: For first time, “no religion” is more common than catholic or evangelical.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:03 pm to 1BamaRTR
Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:03 pm to 1BamaRTR
I understand these concerns about salvation. Every single person probably has them.
At the end of the day the bible states that Jesus is the only way. Clear as day.
If you don't go by the bible- then what? Quran will argue the same thing for Muslims and Jews their same thing on the bible. Exclusivity is not unique to Christianity.
Or the 1 in 77 trillion chance that there is no God like atheism would believe. Doesn't seem any more rational to me than the God of the bible.
We have to trust that God is going to be just. It will all be revealed in the end. Your personal version of justice cannot be greater than the Creator's.
The eternity part sounds terrible- but the reality is we will be outside of time.
Maybe God saves all mankind in the end. It is possible-but its not biblical and that type of faith will not produce strong believers in Christ and his work.
At the end of the day the bible states that Jesus is the only way. Clear as day.
If you don't go by the bible- then what? Quran will argue the same thing for Muslims and Jews their same thing on the bible. Exclusivity is not unique to Christianity.
Or the 1 in 77 trillion chance that there is no God like atheism would believe. Doesn't seem any more rational to me than the God of the bible.
We have to trust that God is going to be just. It will all be revealed in the end. Your personal version of justice cannot be greater than the Creator's.
The eternity part sounds terrible- but the reality is we will be outside of time.
Maybe God saves all mankind in the end. It is possible-but its not biblical and that type of faith will not produce strong believers in Christ and his work.
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:04 pm to OweO
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and I am sure in the 50s and 60s, there were more murders that went unaccounted for.
Looks like the murder rate started rising when religion started declining.
And most categories of crime have gone up significantly since then.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:27 pm to Antonio Moss
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But serial killers are way down ... So is overall violent crime .... Is this still part of “the math?”
Forensics and surveillance baw. I don’t think those are the best metrics for overall mental and spiritual well-being of the populace.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:37 pm to crazyatthecamp
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At the end of the day the bible states that Jesus is the only way. Clear as day.
If you don't go by the bible- then what? Quran will argue the same thing for Muslims and Jews their same thing on the bible. Exclusivity is not unique to Christianity
Does there have to be a big book of answers around? Maybe I’m willing to admit I don’t know the answers, or the circumstances of the beginning or end of the universe, and that’s A-ok?
Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:21 pm to Rouge
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People are finally realizing that they do not need a church to have a relationship with a higher power
What your saying makes sense, but that's not the case here. People have abandoned theistic beliefs, and most don't know what to believe, i.e. atheists, agnostics, among others, while some don't care at all.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:39 pm to Rouge
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the Council of Nicea.....lulz Your guidance was based upon a room of voters that had their own human priorities.
There's a little more to it than what you seem to be implying. Maybe rely less on Dan Brown and more on scholarly church history.
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Also, the stories about Jesus...they are specific stories that would be the equivalent of someone writing about a person today when they lived in the late 1700s (like George Washington)
So contemporary biographies/histories of Washington written now, three centuries later, are inaccurate?
So what do we say about the gospels?
Mark, Peter's disciple, translator, and scribe, writing what's essentially Peter's gospel. AD 55-70
Matthew, though subject to ongoing debate whether it's earlier than Mark. AD 50-70. I'm putting it second but that's my biased opinion.
Luke, the gentile physician and convert whose gospel is based on what are evidently his interviews with disciples, other eyewitnesses, and perhaps also Jesus's mother, Mary, making his account of Jesus's birth unique. A companion of St. Paul and entrusted to write accounts of Jesus in Luke's gospel and an account of the Church's birth and early history in Acts of the Apostles for instruction of new converts.
AD 62 for Luke's gospel and as early as AD 63 for Acts.
John's gospel has been moved from extremely late dates to a now reasonable and well accepted date of between AD 80 and 90. Though some serious scholars argue for an even earlier date. Because John's gospel concerns itself with the divinity of Jesus, not mentioning Jerusalem's destruction in 70 AD has less weight than in the more strictly historical/biographical gospels.
Gospel dates
So the synoptic gospels were written between 20 and 30 years after the Person and events they cover and 60 or so years in the case of John's gospel.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:56 pm to Esquire
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Only one follows the second commandment
Do you go to church on Saturday? 
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