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re: Flight from San Francisco forced to divert to Denver after plane's wing came apart
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:09 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:09 am to Darth_Vader
The only truly notable thing about this one is the absolute crap luck of Boeing. Talk about a company that can't afford any more bad publicity right now. They have to be burning sage, making voodoo dolls, and getting every Wicken witch in the company to cast a spell or two at this point.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:14 am to LegendInMyMind
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crap luck of Boeing
Produce a better product.
Airbus is destroying them right now. It's not just because of issues. It's because Airbus is 100x better.
If I have the choice between a 787/777 and an A350 for a long haul route, I want the A350.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:30 am to beebefootballfan
Former aircraft quality guy here
Damage looks to me like a bird strike. Not sure if the slats on the leading edge are composite or not on this model but the damage, while ugly, doesn’t seem to be bad enough for an IFE. (In flight emergency)
Slats are rear of the engine intakes so no real chance of FODding an engine. Possibly damaged pieces could affect the horizontal stab on that side of the plane, but probably not to the point of being a true issue.
Biggest issue would probably be at landing when slats are deployed as plane slows down but may not have been consequential enough for flight crew to even notice.
To answer one posters question about maintenance these birds are checked at certain intervals of flight hours. Certain inspections are done at different periodic inspections, with frame age and past issues taken into account. But virtually all have fatigue stress/cracks in certain areas of the plane. Eddy current or Ultrasonic inspections are then used to check things such as skin fatigue, especially around rivet holes. Cracks usually stop-drilled at the end to slow/stop propagation of the defect until it crosses certain thresholds, at which time they are repaired or replaced. Same with x-ray inspections on the birds frame internals.
Damage looks to me like a bird strike. Not sure if the slats on the leading edge are composite or not on this model but the damage, while ugly, doesn’t seem to be bad enough for an IFE. (In flight emergency)
Slats are rear of the engine intakes so no real chance of FODding an engine. Possibly damaged pieces could affect the horizontal stab on that side of the plane, but probably not to the point of being a true issue.
Biggest issue would probably be at landing when slats are deployed as plane slows down but may not have been consequential enough for flight crew to even notice.
To answer one posters question about maintenance these birds are checked at certain intervals of flight hours. Certain inspections are done at different periodic inspections, with frame age and past issues taken into account. But virtually all have fatigue stress/cracks in certain areas of the plane. Eddy current or Ultrasonic inspections are then used to check things such as skin fatigue, especially around rivet holes. Cracks usually stop-drilled at the end to slow/stop propagation of the defect until it crosses certain thresholds, at which time they are repaired or replaced. Same with x-ray inspections on the birds frame internals.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 11:32 am
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