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re: FBI now thinks they'll lose in court, postpones Apple iPhone hearing

Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:12 pm to
basically apple's unhackable phone will hacked
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41874 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Apple has gotten too greedy
They're a business.

It's their duty to:
1) Generate profit
2) Protect their consumers
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

it has to do with reading energy that comes of the phone when touched.
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
2505 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:16 pm to
Think oscilloscope and peak is 1 and valley is 0 binary code....
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:19 pm to
If this is true, they deserve to get in.
Posted by TexasTiger39
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Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 10:27 am
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

basically apple's unhackable phone will hacked


no one said it was unhackable. Apple just said they wouldn't be the ones to hack it. I missed the original comment before it got deleted.

From what I can gather, are you saying they're going to use a form of Van Eck Phreaking?
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

I missed the original comment before it got deleted.
Him deleting comments has peaked my interest a little
quote:

Van Eck Phreaking

That's exactly what it sounds like to me
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 3:35 pm
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
2505 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Van Eck Phreaking


yes
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:49 pm to
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Yeah I am kind of indifferent toward this. I don't like the idea of the police state, but I also don't have anything to hide and couldn't really care less if the government is interested in the dumbass conversations me and my jackass friends are having.

So you'd be okay with them rummaging through your house and chest of drawers because you have nothing to hide?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:52 pm to
"You sure do have a lot of ammo."

"Ha. I wouldn't really call 200 rounds 'a lot'."

Government Agent gives a strange look and scribbles on his note pad.
Posted by Hog Zealot
On the Flats
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:01 pm to
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Van Eck Phreaking


Just googled that up and was kind of freaked out by what I read. Especially the instances involving electronic voting systems.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21842 posts
Posted on 3/22/16 at 5:05 pm to
Update: The FBI thought they would lose at court, then asked to postpone the hearing.

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At the heart of the U.S. government's case against Apple was that it could not unlock the San Bernardino shooter's iPhone 5c without Apple's help. And yet that also appears to be its greatest weakness, leading the FBI to request a postponement of a court hearing Tuesday out of concern that it would not win, experts told International Business Times.

The FBI and tech giant Apple had been set to square off over whether the company should be required to build new software capable of unlocking the phone used by Syed Farook, a so-called backdoor to the iPhone's extensive encryption. Instead, the FBI revealed in acourt filing Monday evening it may no longer need Apple’s assistance to open the iPhone now that an outside party has demonstrated “a possible method for unlocking Farook’s phone,” pending a presentation for the Justice Department.

Not only is that an indication the government believes a third party can break Apple’s encryption, but, experts said, it also seems to prove that the Justice Department will be unable to prove in court it has exhausted every resource as is required under the All Writs Act. 



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Failure to answer in the affirmative could be enough to not only lose the case but also set a precedent that could hinder future cases where the government seeks to break encryption. Government lawyers would also have to contend with a Brooklyn judge’s February ruling, in an unrelated drug case, that the All Writs Act does not give the government the power to force Apple to break its own encryption. That decision is not legally binding in the San Bernardino, California, case, though it would inevitably influence the court proceedings, according to Brian Owsley, a former magistrate judge who has ruled on a number of electronic surveillance issues.




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Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:36 am to
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:36 am to
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