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re: Father (Not Guilty) of killing drunk driver who killed his sons.Update

Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:18 am to
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:18 am to
no gun
no witnesses
no time


I agree with what he did
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:21 am to
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I was tired of arguing with someone who refused to concede he was wrong


Well, I'm not wrong.

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If you are cleaning a loaded gun in a room full of people and someone gets shot, is it really an accident? I say no


Then you're a dumbass that doesn't know what accident means.

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Driving intoxicated has been proven without a doubt to be dangerous.


No one said it wasn't. Stop making up arguments.

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Once intoxicated you don't have control over the vehicle... This is not debatable.


Yea, that's just false. It's very debateable. At 0.08, I am still very much in control of my vehicle.

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You can try to argue intent and semantics all you'd like, but you just sound dumb.


Says the guy that doesn't know what accident means.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:37 am to
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struck Barajas' sons as they pushed the family's broken-down truck down a dark, narrow road just 50 yards from their home. Twelve-year-old David Jr. died at the scene; 11-year-old Caleb died at a hospital.

If he's not convicted for murder, he should at least be charged with child endangerment of some kind. Hey, I've got a bright idea, how's about I get my 11 and 12 year olds to push my broken down vehicle home. Sure the road is dark and narrow and open to traffic, but what's the worst that can happen?
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:38 am to
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So if your fat fingers were gripped around a whopper, and you accidentally, yes accidentally cause that is what it is, hit and killed somebody do you need to be murdered too?





Easy there little fella... I never said anything about someone needing to be murdered. . If you actually read my responses to this thread you'd see two tracks. First, there is no hard evidence to convict the man in the OP. Second, driving under the influence is dangerous because the driver isn't in control of the vehicle; making the resulting wrecks not an accident.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:41 am to
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Second, driving under the influence is dangerous because the driver isn't in control of the vehicle; making the resulting wrecks not an accident.


Breaking the speed limit is dangerous. If you get in a wreck going 2 miles over the limit, it is also an accident.

Do you see how dumb your logic is here?
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:41 am to
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First, there is no hard evidence to convict the man in the OP
im wondering how hard the state tried to gather evidence. I would think it would be fairly hard to get the gun in and out of the scene of the crime even with it being rural.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:44 am to
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Second, driving under the influence is dangerous because the driver isn't in control of the vehicle; making the resulting wrecks not an accident.

Depends on if his intoxication caused the accident. The genius dad had his two young children pushing a stalled car down a dark and narrow road, so who knows.
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4535 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:48 am to
He'll definitely be convicted for murder; however, I wouldn't hesitate to do the same shite if not worse.

Kudos to him for avenging his sons.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:50 am to
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He'll definitely be convicted for murder; however, I wouldn't hesitate to do the same shite if not worse.

Kudos to him for avenging his sons.


I'm sure his wife will be just thrilled to have lost her entire family.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108534 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:51 am to
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He'll definitely be convicted for murder; however, I wouldn't hesitate to do the same shite if not worse. Kudos to him for avenging his sons.
And hopefully the murdered guys father kills him to avenge his son And a round and round we will go with you dumbasses
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37693 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:52 am to
The mother and father need to take some responsibility in the boys' death. Real fricking dumb to have an 11 and 12 year old pushing a broken down truck down a dark narrow road.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108534 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:57 am to
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Deserves is maybe not the right word but if a father/mother sees her texting and her negligence leads to her killing said father/mothers children right before their eyes I'm going to give them a pass.
Christ you are batshit crazy
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108534 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:58 am to
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If a high school girl is doing something reckless and kills my kid, then yes I think she deserves to die. Most people and society as a whole tend to be merciful, but I do think that strictly speaking she deserves death for that infraction. I value her life less than my own child's life, and my child certainly wouldn't deserve to die in that scenario.
Good God that is scary stuff right there
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:01 am to
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Breaking the speed limit is dangerous. If you get in a wreck going 2 miles over the limit, it is also an accident. 





So you're saying driving 2 mph over the speed limit results in the same lack of control and slowed reaction times as driving intoxicated?

Do you see how dumb your logic is here?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:03 am to
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So you're saying driving 2 mph over the speed limit results in the same lack of control and slowed reaction times as driving intoxicated?

Do you see how dumb your logic is here?


Well, considering I was using your logic, yes I see how dumb it is. Thanks for playing.

ETA: And good job ignoring the accident argument. You were really looking dumb with that.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 8:04 am
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16370 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:11 am to
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If a high school girl is doing something reckless and kills my kid, then yes I think she deserves to die. Most people and society as a whole tend to be merciful, but I do think that strictly speaking she deserves death for that infraction. I value her life less than my own child's life, and my child certainly wouldn't deserve to die in that scenario.


Let's say you are driving with your child in the car... And you are switching radio stations, trying to answer your phone, adjusting mirror, etc and you get in an accident that costs your childs life and you are at fault.... You deserve death for that infraction?

Good god man... Accidents happen. What if that teenage girl wasn't doing something reckless and she still got in an accident and kills your kid... Does she still deserve to die?

And what about her parents? They value their daughters life over you and your kids... Do they have the right to kill you after you kill their daughter?
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 8:17 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72224 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:14 am to
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if anything, the premeditated revenge murder is far worse than the drunken accidental killing. that guy didn't set out that night actively trying to kill 2 kids. the father went out with every intention of killing the man and he did.


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You are a terrible person.


I didn't say that. Those are TH03's words.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:16 am to
I refuse to give equal weight to the two options in your dumb scenario.


Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:19 am to
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I refuse to give equal weight to the two options in your dumb scenario.


You're the one that claims when you break the law it is no longer an accident. And you're calling me dumb?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108534 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:22 am to
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Let's say you are driving with your child in the car... And you are switching radio stations, trying to answer your phone, adjusting mirror, etc and you get in an accident that costs your childs life and you are at fault.... You deserve death for that infraction?
According to the vigilantes in this thread yes he deserves death
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And what about her parents? They value their daughters life over you and your kids... Do they have the right to kill you after you kill their daughter?
yes. According to this board it would be a giant circle of justified killings until only one was left from one of the families
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 8:24 am
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