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re: Exxon Process Tech interview invites
Posted on 3/22/16 at 9:52 pm to Kujo
Posted on 3/22/16 at 9:52 pm to Kujo
A few more tips from experience:
When they ask you to tell them what you would do if you had a problem with another worker, don't automatically tell them you would tell your supervisor. They want to know you can be part of a team and try to work it out among said team.
When they ask you what your biggest flaw or weakness is, don't tell them you have trouble getting to work on time or you're a procrastinator. Find something that could be a positive and put a negative spin on it (like being a perfectionist).
Just know that while you're talking, they will most likely be writing down everything you say and won't be looking at you. They will score you on how they think you did but they write down what you're saying so when they send it in, the hiring committee sees what all the interviewers wrote down, not just taking one person's word for it. The local people absolutely have influence but sometimes the decision comes from outside the plant and may not make any sense to the people who are at the plant that's hiring.
Oh and don't judge the whole XOM Baton Rouge Complex by the freaking Coker.
When they ask you to tell them what you would do if you had a problem with another worker, don't automatically tell them you would tell your supervisor. They want to know you can be part of a team and try to work it out among said team.
When they ask you what your biggest flaw or weakness is, don't tell them you have trouble getting to work on time or you're a procrastinator. Find something that could be a positive and put a negative spin on it (like being a perfectionist).
Just know that while you're talking, they will most likely be writing down everything you say and won't be looking at you. They will score you on how they think you did but they write down what you're saying so when they send it in, the hiring committee sees what all the interviewers wrote down, not just taking one person's word for it. The local people absolutely have influence but sometimes the decision comes from outside the plant and may not make any sense to the people who are at the plant that's hiring.
Oh and don't judge the whole XOM Baton Rouge Complex by the freaking Coker.
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Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:01 pm to Kujo
Does it suck working for hourly pay? I imagine working 60 hours in a week would make it worth it but I'll enjoy my 40-45 with no complaints
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:23 pm to fightin tigers
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Don't bring me a problem, bring me a solution to the problem.
Actually I did. I use a device that is approved at other sites(Shell) but Exxon hasn't approved it. Not that they have a reason for dissappoving it, just that no one has said it was okay to allow it.
So instead of being able to conduct my business in a reasonable setting 4-20 ft away, these "just do it the old way" cya asshats, don't feel like asking their bosses for permission to upgrade.
Meaning being 2 inches from rotating equiptment, climbing in pipe racks, exposed streamlines, harnesses, wasps, yada,yada,yada...dont stand on pipe, use ladders that aren't there.....but our #1 goal is safety!!
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:44 pm to Kujo
Good lord you sound like a huge whiney count. I'm sure you make for a great co-worker. LOL
Posted on 3/22/16 at 11:11 pm to notiger1997
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Good lord you sound like a huge whiney count. I'm sure you make for a great co-worker. LOL
I dont expect anyone to really understand. But what I did there, at other sites we have a retention average of 6 years, at Exxon it's 6 months. That's due to people quitting or getting injured.(burns, heat exhaustion....from being forced to use scissors to cut grass instead of a lawn mower)
Only reason I went there was to help them out because they were so far behind on the project.
You all seem happy, so that's great. I know it's very cold in those shelters with those crushed ice machines and ice cold filtered water and actual bathrooms..... Maybe it was having to shite in a 103 degree porta potty for 60 days thats driving my anger? Who knows.
(PS only facility that I couldn't use an actual bathroom)
So I'll go, fake a smile, canned answers, and may be then I can be a proud blue too
Posted on 3/22/16 at 11:19 pm to Kujo
Randall is getting the job baw
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:31 am to Kujo
If you are an operator and have worked at so many different places, then maybe that's saying that it's not really your specialty. If you were worth a damn, then you would still be at the first place you worked. Just stick to shittin in porta pottys, operations is not for you.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:45 am to loganfoster
No I think he's saying he's a contractor and all the plants he's been too Exxon was the worse.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:50 am to Kujo
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(PS only facility that I couldn't use an actual bathroom)
I worked as a contractor in several plants and the only time I actually used a real bathroom was when it was the MBU's setup for us lowly contractors. I'm sure if you had tried at Exxon, somebody at a zone shop, control room or operator's shelter would have had mercy on you and let you use the restroom. That is if you had asked and not come across as a prick.
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smile, canned answers, and may be then I can be a proud blue too
I will make sure and put a word in for you.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:01 am to vodkacop
Nothing worse than a snarky know it all contractor with a chip on his shoulder about operations.
Newsflash: most plants are unsafe. The safety thing being preached is mainly a house of cards built for CYA purposes in lawsuits.
Newsflash: most plants are unsafe. The safety thing being preached is mainly a house of cards built for CYA purposes in lawsuits.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 6:43 am to RealityTiger
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Newsflash: most plants are unsafe. The safety thing being preached is mainly a house of cards built for CYA purposes in lawsuits.
I can tell you that during my time at Motiva they were at 289 days with out an OSHA and the TRIR or whatever the terminology is was at .14 for 2015.
That whole plant shuts down once a week for 30 minutes for everyone to have a safety meeting. This includes contractors, administration, general managers, etc.
They damn sure preach safety and act the part. It's not just for a dog and pony show.
Mr. pissed off contractor may be right about Exxon BR, but as of several years ago Exxon had a top notch safety program.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 6:50 am to RealityTiger
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Nothing worse than a snarky know it all contractor with a chip on his shoulder about operations.
Do you see me griping about Shell operators? I spent more time at Shell than Exxon. It was a difference in behavior/culture. Being treated as a Peer, hearing someone say "shite man, when you're in these gates, everyone is a Shell employee" Bottled Gatorade and Water available to anyone at cooling stations, golf carts with ice chests running around the plant flagging down people asking if they were thirsty. Going in the building, grabbing a kurig coffee and taking a shite in air conditioning.
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The safety thing being preached is mainly a house of cards built for CYA purposes in lawsuits.
True, but it's how they follow-up. I do a bit a safety inspections, and I've noted loose handrails, cut pipe impalement risks, missing/broken floor grating clips, uninsulated steam lines, and a host of others......at Shell, they have someone out that day to put eyes on it and it's fixed either right then and there or marked off.
Exxon, after all the safety smoke show, "where is it?".."okay, I'll let someone know".(without ever writing anything down or ANY of them getting out of their chairs)
I forget the name, it's an area of the plant that has a bunch of numbered areas (something like IPA1,IPA2,IPA3,RGA4,RGA5,RGA6)...if someone can decipher the different units(just going off memory). But there's a deck on the north side of furnace 2 by the roadway that one side is completely missing a handrail, like a 6-8 foot section that's a 20+ foot drop over the edge. I reported it on week 2, by week 7, still no handrail or red tape warning.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 6:54 am
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:21 am to notiger1997
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Mr. pissed off contractor may be right about Exxon BR, but as of several years ago Exxon had a top notch safety program.
I don't buy the LPSA program. Basically, look out, and if something happens, you didn't look out enough. It puts the entirety of safety on the person and doesn't incorporate the plants responsibility.
It's engineering, administrative, then PPE(personal protection)......the person is the last line of defense, and they put it at the forefront. If someone burns them-self on a steam line, it's "why didn't you know that pipe was hot? Didn't we tell you to assume everything is hot?"....when OSHA has a mandate that ALL steamlines that are within 7 ft of the ground, or 24 inches of where work operations occur, MUST be insulated(or guarded). It's their frick-up, but no, "we said, assume all pipes are hot, all handrails are unsafe, all walkways are shaky over pits of acid.....so if anything happens to you, it's your fault for not seeing it".
If that's what you call a solid safety program, I beg to differ. Other sites engineer and use proper signage to create a safer work environment over just telling people to be better lookouts.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:31 am to Kujo
You sound very bitter toward Exxon. Why are you even considering going on the interview? Everything you've said is completely opposite from what I've experienced there and I've been there for over a decade. Tell me where that missing handrail is and I will get it fixed. I think you're full of shite about that though because the RSOI team out there is brutal and catches shite you wouldn't dream of.
By the way, those unit numbering systems sound nothing like Exxon. The Refinery units (other than the Cokers) end with LA (for Louisiana), like PCLA (Powdered Catalyst Louisiana).
By the way, those unit numbering systems sound nothing like Exxon. The Refinery units (other than the Cokers) end with LA (for Louisiana), like PCLA (Powdered Catalyst Louisiana).
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:41 am to JonTheTigerFan
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The Refinery units (other than the Cokers) end with LA (for Louisiana), like PCLA (Powdered Catalyst Louisiana).
IRLA? I don't remember, it was __LA #4 furnace #2
I believe it's an area south of coker, north west of aromatics?(whatever that south point is with the caustics), could be near BELA(but I'm getting mixed up) I was just there for two days and was driven there.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 7:46 am
Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:52 am to Kujo
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I was just there for two days and was driven there.
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. I reported it on week 2, by week 7, still no handrail or red tape warning.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:05 am to fightin tigers
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I was just there for two days and was driven there.
in that direct unit, place is pretty big
working on the furnace week 2, when I was back in the area week 7, I checked to see if it was fixed.
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I reported it on week 2, by week 7
spent most of my time in coker and Bela.....and in exchanger hell (psla 10 or 8?)
I think the area that I was referring to earlier has a tower set F101 and F102, if that helps narrow it down. Had to climb both, only to find scaffold blocking my way to the top.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:03 pm to Kujo
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think the area that I was referring to earlier has a tower set F101 and F102, if that helps narrow it down. Had to climb both,
F-101 and 102 would be furnaces hence the F. Towers would be T-101 and 102. Northwest of Aromatics could be PALA which is a Chem Plant unit on the Refinery side of Gulf States Road. That's one of my units. Tell me where the handrai is and I will get it fixed.
And next time you're there and have to use the bathroom, knock on the shop door north of Aromatics. Tell whoever answers that their boss said you could take a shite in their bathroom.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:27 pm to JonTheTigerFan
The culture and attitude towards contractors can vary from site to site within the same Company. We've had contractors come here from Freeport and Plaquemine and tell us they want to stay here, they get treated much better by operators and maintenance people.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:59 pm to Kujo
I get what you're saying. But I can tell you one thing about operators. It's all in timing and delivery. I'm not taking up for the guys you're talking about, please don't take it that way. There are lazy asses from operations up, who don't give a shite.
And a missing handrail is unacceptable by the way. That requires a life critical guard being put up.
But on the flip side of that coin, I have seen douchey contractors (as an operator) who love to put one in his place. Either by conducting a safety audit and compiling a laundry list of items more stringent than a plant EH&S guy would make, or by trying to correct a permit to cut corners. When you're on my side, you'll see what I'm talking about. Our unit treats contractors like one of our own. But every now and then I come across one who I need to be a dick to.
And a missing handrail is unacceptable by the way. That requires a life critical guard being put up.
But on the flip side of that coin, I have seen douchey contractors (as an operator) who love to put one in his place. Either by conducting a safety audit and compiling a laundry list of items more stringent than a plant EH&S guy would make, or by trying to correct a permit to cut corners. When you're on my side, you'll see what I'm talking about. Our unit treats contractors like one of our own. But every now and then I come across one who I need to be a dick to.
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