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re: Explosion Of Creativity In the Sixties And Seventies

Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by Teton Tiger
Somewhere between here and there.
Member since Mar 2005
2991 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:47 pm to
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mid to late sixties

This is so true. Played music (organ) in a band from 65 till 69. We could play for the teenagers, young adults, mid aged and retired people. Played the same music for all. Rock, soul, country & western ( yes the old way) we learned and played for what ever group we played for. No swamp pop please.
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:49 pm to
LSD

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Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71344 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:50 pm to
Drugs.

I do believe the fact we're treating everything under the sun with medication is taking away a lot of the creativity in the world. When you go back and see how many of the great minds were also afflicted with anxiety, depression, bi-polar, or other issues, it'll be interesting to see how the arts are affected.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:08 pm to
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Owsley and Tim Scully's product was 99.9% pure. That's a fact. Kids these days are taking stuff that isn't even the chemical it purports to be at all, much less 99.9% pure.

I may be 62 years old, but I am not one of those seniors who berate today's youth with the tired "everything was better in my youth" line.

But there is one case in which this is inarguably true: the potency and quality of 60's acid was better than any acid product since then. Far better.

In fact, back then, if you took a hit of acid and didn't come to believe at some point in your trip that you had gone completely, literally and permanently insane ... well, you had every right to go back to who sold it to you and ask for your money back.

Sometime in the mid-70's I had my first--and last--experiences with windowpane acid. I remember my last "trip"--after ingesting 3 or 4 or 5 blotters that produced not one single respectable hallucination, I gave up. I knew the era of Acid Insanity was over, and I had no interest in consuming the watered down LSD's that were being fobbed off on a new and inexperienced generation of users. The acid chapter in my little book of life was closed.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72874 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:15 pm to
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Get you some Seasick Steve.


I will check it out. Thanks. I also like Jack White. He seems very old school and in touch with bluesy, real music.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72874 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

When you go back and see how many of the great minds were also afflicted with anxiety, depression, bi-polar, or other issues, it'll be interesting to see how the arts are affected.


Very true. Those types of personalities go hand in hand with artistic expression. When you throw some good cannabis, LSD, mushrooms, peyote etc. on the pile it can make for some brilliant art. Great point.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68059 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:54 pm to
I'm not certain that the 60's and 70's were more creative than other decades. Jazz, blues, big band were all created by extremely talented individuals. In fact many bands like the Animals and Led Zeppelin are known for songs that are unbeknownst to many of their fans, covers of the Blues.

But, to accept your premise and try to answer you question…young people had more leisure time on their hands thanks to the establishment of a comfortable middle class post WWII. Fewer had to bust arse in the fields of their farm or get a job to help with the family's income. That combined with technological advances that allowed a better than local exchange of ideas helped it spread.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40250 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:56 pm to
LSD for sure
Posted by panterica
Member since Jun 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:03 pm to
If you don't think the answer is drugs, you've never done drugs.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72874 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:08 pm to
Never done psychedelics. Ecstasy a long time ago and smoked a lot of weed. That's about it. Would like to chew on some mushrooms and go camping up here around Asheville soon though. I need to hook up with HempHead.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55981 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:15 pm to
I think the creativity was always there, but there just were not the consumers ready to receive that product up to that point...

During that time color tvs and stereo music became available and that made consumption of the arts easy for all classes of people.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:43 pm to
Weed, acid, mescaline, hash--in reality, these were just the matches that set afire the vast forest of crypto-totalitarian psychology, murder and corruption at the heart of the Johnson and Nixon Administrations.

Ponder the irony: Richard M. Nixon, a man with the heart and soul of a concentration camp commander, may have done more to spur the era's creativity, as a response to his limitless capacity for evil, than all the acid, weed and speed on the planet.

You really had few choices back then: creative resistance, head-in-the-sand apathy ... or complete mental collapse. Those who chose creative resistance, fueled by modern chemistry and mother nature, created not just new genres of creative expression--but history itself.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72874 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:11 pm to
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Richard M. Nixon, a man with the heart and soul of a concentration camp commander


I think that is a little hyperbolic and over the top.
But he definitely was a heartless, pragmatic politician to the core. My first memories as a five and six year old were the Watergate hearings on television in the early seventies. I missed the heart of that era but definitely lived in the aftermath. It was an interesting period of time no doubt. I appreciate all of the input and if we ever meet irl Tigerwaffe, maybe we can partake of some substances at an LSU tailgate or something. Not LSD mind you but maybe something a little more mellow.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:39 am to
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if we ever meet irl Tigerwaffe, maybe we can partake of some substances at an LSU tailgate or something. Not LSD mind you but maybe something a little more mellow

Excellent. My medicine cabinet is always open to friends and fellow travelers.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:15 am to
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How do you explain the explosion of musical, film, art creativity in the mid to late sixties and seventies?


60's was LSD and weed.
70's was cocaine.
Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
1595 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:17 am to
If you haven't seen the documentary "The Drug Years" I highly recommend watching it. One of my favorites.
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