re: EV owners are increasingly frustrated with home charging, and it should worry EV makers

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how much of a hit is it on your electric bill, to keep your car charged? Let's assume everyday driver, normal suburban middle class house.

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Obviously depends on a lot, but I fit that criteria and it adds about $25 ish a month, compared to probably $100 ish it would be in gas, maybe slightly cheaper.

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And when you think about it, EV further limits your options. The power goes out (storm), if I have gas I can drive somewhere with the AC on, charge my phone, listen to the radio for updates, etc. If I'm low in gas, I can stop at the nearest station which might be high, get a gallon or so, and then go to a better station.
If there's a disaster and gas is in demand, I can toss a few cans in my truckbed, sit in line maybe an hour (usu worst case scenario), and then fill up both the truck and the cans for my generator.

You lose literally ALL of this with an EV.

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Certainly not disagreeing with your overall point that you lose options, you do.

But there's another way to think of it. If your power randomly goes out due to a storm, having an EV isn't like having an ICE vehicle where that may happen on a day where you're near the E or quarter of a tank. With an EV, you plug in, or should plug in nightly so you're starting every single day with a "full tank" if you will. So if you have a random power outage, there shouldn't be many scenarios based on your description above where you'd have issues with AC, charge, radio or whatever because you're going to have a shite ton of range already, unlike your ICE vehicle that maybe be low on gas.

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I'm in South La, we've had our share of storms recently. I'd be terrified without gas. I have some electric yard tools, a bunch of Ryobi stuff. Hedge clippers, weedeaters, blowers, pole saws etc. Once you get to the essential level of a mower, I want gas. Anything more essential, I definitely want gas.

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I don't know that I'd own an EV that is not a Tesla until they have a similar charging infrastructure, but I also wouldn't own a Tesla if I lived in a town/city that was susceptible to long power outages and that didn't have multiple super chargers around town.

As an example, I lived in Orlando. Didn't have an EV then, but a hypothetical. If I did during Hurricane CHarley or whatever it was, my place I rented lower power for 9 days. Not ideal, but there are numerous charging stations all over town located in shopping centers/near restaurants, so it's pretty easy to charge without going out of your way. If I have no power, I'll be eating out more, so if I needed a charge, I'd just choose a restaurant near that supercharger.

But if I lived in deep South Louisiana(again) nowhere near a supercharger, and near the gulf and susceptible to a hurricane and loss of power for a while, I probably wouldn't have a Tesla.

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But there's another way to think of it. If your power randomly goes out due to a storm, having an EV isn't like having an ICE vehicle where that may happen on a day where you're near the E or quarter of a tank. With an EV, you plug in, or should plug in nightly so you're starting every single day with a "full tank" if you will. So if you have a random power outage, there shouldn't be many scenarios based on your description above where you'd have issues with AC, charge, radio or whatever because you're going to have a shite ton of range already, unlike your ICE vehicle that maybe be low on gas.

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Talk about straw man. If that kind of storm is coming everyone is filling up their tanks.

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I didn't read the link, and am just curious-
how much of a hit is it on your electric bill, to keep your car charged? Let's assume everyday driver, normal suburban middle class house.

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Look at battery size. My Lightning has a 131 kWh battery. Look at cost of electricity through your provider. My COOP is 10.66 cents per kWh. Multiply 131 times 10.66 and divide by 100 to get it to dollars. 131 times 10.66 = 1396.46/100 = $13.96. I have other charges so it costs about fifteen bucks four or five times a month so 75 bucks or so. Three tank ups for gasoline per month would be about 165 bucks. But the EV truck is about 15 grand more expensive than the ICE.

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Talk about straw man. If that kind of storm is coming everyone is filling up their tanks.

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I said if the power RANDOMLY goes out, so we're talking about the complete opposite of "that kind of storm" but nice try.