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re: Equality and women who dress like hoes in the workplace
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:44 pm to Salmon
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:44 pm to Salmon
quote:Well then are disagreement is this simple. The hijab is a great example of why it would be effective. But we can just disagree on that
I just don't think it would be effective,
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:47 pm to Pecker
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The hijab is a great example of why it would be effective.
Even if men and women were required to wear hijabs in the workplace, they still would not be equal.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:49 pm to Pecker
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That’s the whole point. You can’t complain that you’re being treated differently than men and that you’re being sexualized if you’re actively participating in that behavior.
I agree, but most of those that I've known who have dressed provocatively never jon that chorus, fully understanding that it benefited them. The few that were vocal in that manner usually only had looks going for them. Just my experience.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:51 pm to Salmon
quote:you’re really struggling here.
they still would not be equal.
Would they be more or less equal with respect to appearance? More or less? Think hard
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:56 pm to Pecker
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you’re really struggling here.
I'm not.
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Would they be more or less equal with respect to appearance? More or less? Think hard
Yes. If they wore the exact same thing from head to toe they would be equal in appearance.
If your entire point was this silly reductionist argument then I gave you way too much credit.
Now tell me what how being equal in appearance matters in a work place? Especially when it comes to human nature/biology.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:59 pm to Salmon
quote:yeah I know
Yes. If they wore the exact same thing from head to toe they would be equal in appearance.
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Now tell me what how being equal in appearance matters in a work place? Especially when it comes to human nature/biology.
Well why does the hijab work? What’s its purpose?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:02 pm to Pecker
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Well why does the hijab work?
Does it? Especially in the context of this thread?
A woman can still signal her sexuality with a hijab FWIW
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:06 pm to celltech1981
I bet her name was Debbie
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:06 pm to Salmon
quote:yep
Does it? Especially in the context of this thread?
Because it limits the degree to which women can sexualize their appearance. I’m having to explain the extremes to you because you’re having trouble with the basics (or being obtuse).
What’s more visually stimulating: A woman in a bikini or a woman in a hijab?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:08 pm to Pecker
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Because it limits the degree to which women can sexualize their appearance. I’m having to explain the extremes to you because you’re having trouble with the basics (or being obtuse)
No
You are having to use extreme examples because your point is so flimsy
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What’s more visually stimulating: A woman in a bikini or a woman in a hijab?
In a vacuum? The woman in a bikini, obviously.
In this equal workplace you are creating, an attractive woman in an hijab could stimulate the same feelings.
That is the point.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:09 pm to Pecker
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What’s more visually stimulating: A woman in a bikini or a woman in a hijab?
why are you just singling out women?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:10 pm to Salmon
quote:with her appearance? We can address behavior later
In this equal workplace you are creating, an attractive woman in an hijab could stimulate the same feelings.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
also I think Pecker needs to google "hijab" as I'm pretty sure he is wanting to say "burka"
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:11 pm to Pecker
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with her appearance? We can address behavior later
You know what a hijab is...right?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:14 pm to Salmon
quote:Now you’ve got me. No recovery in sight. Okay, let’s talk burka
also I think Pecker needs to google "hijab" as I'm pretty sure he is wanting to say "burka"
Your argument that appearance do don’t matter is illogical.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:17 pm to Pecker
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Okay, let’s talk burka
Ok.
Then yes, if you completely remove a person's ability to signal sexuality through means of physical projection, then yes, you can remove that one aspect from the workplace.
Congrats. You proved your point by putting a blanket over people.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:19 pm to Salmon
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Congrats. You proved your point by putting a blanket over people.
No. I illustrated that there can be limits, because you were struggling with that. It's not all or nothing, but sexuality can be limited, and it's impactful to how people interact.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:22 pm to Pecker
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No. I illustrated that there can be limits, because you were struggling with that.
You illustrated that if you completely cover a person up, they cannot project their sexuality.
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It's not all or nothing, but sexuality can be limited, and it's impactful to how people interact.
Removing the extreme position of putting a blanket over people, I disagree.
You are trying to regulate basic human nature/biology.
That never works.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:24 pm to Salmon
quote:you’re not even trying
You illustrated that if you completely cover a person up, they cannot project their sexuality.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:30 pm to WestlakeTiger
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That's a fine arse Kate Upton wanna be
That is Kate Upton at the Cantor Fitzgerald annual fund raiser
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