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re: Dr. Peter McCullough, 85% of CV deaths could have been avoided with treatment.

Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:02 am to
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f the system relies on the media to distribute treatment protocols then it is fricked up to begin with.


If “the system” becomes radicalized to resist OMB, and secondary avenues of information like the MSM and big tech are also radicalized by ideologues, then yes, medically sound protocol information will be effectively blocked.

How can you doubt this? The evidence is overwhelming that our systems of information have been smashed by people who do not believe in the concept of objective truth, and who have co-opted the language of rationality and “science” to mean whatever they want it to mean.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:02 am to
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Please post the treatment plan they were sent home with. Thanks.


they were treated at the hospital and sent home and told to take certain over the counter medications for treatment

is that not a treatment plan?

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This is biology basics.


so no data?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54068 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:03 am to
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The media was truly Public Enemy #1 at the height of the pandemic. They pushed a lot of fear porn

I refer you to an article/study that was posted here a while ago. It showed that Americans preferred reading/hearing negative Covid news much more than positive. So, the outlets ran with what was selling for them. Should they have? Did they have a responsibility in honestly covering Covid? I believe they did, and I believe they dropped the ball completely. Our country's media had a legitimate chance to lead the way and help calm the fear, but they chose not to. That tells you all you need to know about our media.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118778 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:03 am to
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Um. It's pretty common knowledge now that scientists believe surviving covid gives you up to 2 years resistance while the vaccine gives you ~6 months.
Google it yourself lazy bones.



It's how herd immunity is achieved without a vaccine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260538 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:04 am to
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they were treated at the hospital and sent home and told to take certain over the counter medications for treatment

is that not a treatment plan?
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:04 am to
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The media was truly Public Enemy #1 at the height of the pandemic.


CNN's COVID death counter was designed to scare us into submission.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:06 am to
is that not a treatment plan?

is aspirin not a over the counter medication?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20115 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:07 am to
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is that not a treatment plan?


Quit fricking around with language, you sophist. Are we to assume that every encounter with the medical system that produces a nominal “treatment plan” is actually the best treatment plan, or even a well-researched and best practice plan?

We all know that the doctors and nurses in hospitals are just as prone to bias and laziness as the next person, and their systems are just as corrupt.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:08 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260538 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:07 am to
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is that not a treatment plan?


You mean the basic shite they were probably already taking for symptoms?

That's not a plan.

Now most people didn't need a comprehensive plan. It aint that big of a deal.
Posted by MeanWeen225
Member since Nov 2020
253 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:08 am to
When you spend too much time on the OT Lounge and Political board you get very stupid and say things like the media blocked Covid treatments.

If you're bored enough to click the link, the website actually says it's impossible for asymptomatic disease to spread ??????. Don't know if OP actually read the website or if he's just so dumb he believes utter bullshite
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118778 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:10 am to
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they were treated at the hospital and sent home and told to take certain over the counter medications for treatment

is that not a treatment plan?



I would like to see that treatment plan. It was probably terribly generic. The point is he was trying to disseminate treatment plans as more was learned about the virus. The treatment plan in the medical community did not evolve as more information was gathered. That's the issue.


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so no data?


Look, herd immunity is obtained on viruses without vaccines. This is well known. Vaccines are traditionally made with an attenuated virus (except for the mRNA vaccines). This is just the mechanism of how immunity is obtained.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:10 am to
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You mean the basic shite they were probably already taking for symptoms?

That's not a plan.


thats literally what a treatment plan is for most people
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20115 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:11 am to
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Um. It's pretty common knowledge now that scientists believe surviving covid gives you up to 2 years resistance while the vaccine gives you ~6 months.
Google it yourself lazy bones.


I definitely disagree that this is common knowledge. It’s great news if true, and I’m not doubting it as a possibility, but I’d like to see that study. That would be great.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260538 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:11 am to
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thats literally what a treatment plan is for most people


So, lets see your data showing everyone released was given a "treatment plan"

Since you stated it was absolute.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:12 am to
Could've also not sent covid positive patients into nursing homes and murdered old people like 5-6 democrat governors did. That would've shaved the death toll a bit... but then they wouldn't have been able to seize power like they did.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83575 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:12 am to
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Look, herd immunity is obtained on viruses without vaccines. This is well known


its one path

your OP claims its better than any vaccine

I'd like to see the actual data on that
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11457 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:12 am to
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- People that were diagnosed with CV were just sent home with no treatment plan
Exactly what happened to my elderly mom and dad. Dad has COPD and has had 3 open heart surgeries.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83575 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:13 am to
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So, lets see your data showing everyone released was given a "treatment plan"

Since you stated it was absolute.


I didn't say it was "absolute"?

I said I knew not everyone diagnosed with CV was just sent home with no treatment plan because I had family members that were treated at the hospital and then sent home with a treatment plan

try again Rog
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118778 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:14 am to
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Don't know if OP actually read the website or if he's just so dumb he believes utter bullshite




Please post medical research that illustrates asymptomatic people spreading viruses. Thanks.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260538 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:14 am to
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- People that were diagnosed with CV were just sent home with no treatment plan
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Exactly what happened to my elderly mom and dad. Dad has COPD and has had 3 open heart surgeries


Happened to a friend of mine's dad. He was a doctor, but was 85 and not in the greatest of mind.
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