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re: Doctors hail world first as woman’s advanced breast cancer is eradicated
Posted on 6/4/18 at 4:07 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 6/4/18 at 4:07 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:The Garn.
the lizard man
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Posted on 6/4/18 at 4:25 pm to guedeaux
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Its already happening. I have said in many threads like this one that adoptive cell transfer will be the next big breakthrough in cancer treatment. The hard part is making it a feasible product. Taking these cells and expanding them and then getting them back to the bedside for therapy is a extremely difficult. Currently, with insurance paying for "standard-of-care" associated costs, it is >$100,000 per patient.
Also, the necessary pre-conditioning (i.e. lymphodepletion) and post-conditioning (e.g. high-dose of low-dose) IL2 are severely toxic.
We are at least a decade away from this being an approved, wide-spread therapeutic option, but it will be the next big paradigm shift in cancer treatments.
I have this wild thought that the healthcare industry should be 100% (as close as possible) to being private sector without the govt. The lone exception is cancer. I don't know what the money would look like, but it seems that it would be worthwhile for cancer care to be picked up by the govt - we would get a ton of data in a short time, and be able to refine treatments, administer treatments and so forth on a level never experienced before. I think we could virtually eliminate it.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 7:38 pm to DemonKA3268
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Immune cells from the woman’s own body used to wipe out tumours
What?! The body’s innate intelligence ability and power via the immune system healed itself?
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completely cleared of the disease by a groundbreaking therapy that harnessed the power of her immune system to fight the tumours.
Wait, you are telling us that our bodies are designed to protect and heal itself via something called “the immune system”? This “immune system” thing sounds kinda important.
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several rounds of routine chemotherapy failed to stop a tumour in her right breast from growing and spreading to her liver and other areas.
So she didn’t have cancer bc of a lack of chemotherapeutic drugs, she had cancer bc of a lack of immune system strength? So the chemotherapy by lowering her natural immune system function was actually making her worse and almost killing her?
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Doctors who cared for the woman at the US National Cancer Institute in Maryland said Perkins’s response had been “remarkable”: the therapy wiped out cancer cells so effectively that she has now been free of the disease for two years.
What’s remarkable is we have been educated to believe more in synthetic chemistry and ignore the powerful organic chemistry of the body. We learn about the immune system and the body’s innate intelligence and ability, then we are distracted and the bulk of learning we receive has us focus so intensely on chemicals and external interventions that we always seem amazed when they body does something IT IS DESIGNED TO DO! Also, this leads many of us to call anything outside of the chemical drugs as “quackery and snake oil”. Perhaps the pharmaceutical companies who fund so many schools thereby designing the treatment curriculum have been, mmm, less than ethical and moral about their agenda.
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Researchers are now planning full scale clinical trials to assess how effective the treatment could be. Researchers point out that while the treatment could in principle work for many different kinds of cancer, it will not help everyone.
Well no poo, not everyone is intended by nature to live. Natural selection thins the heard. So obviously there will be many who are not going to survive.
Our bodies are more powerful healing organisms than anyone has ever led us to believe.
The order of treatment for any condition SHOULD be:
1: Prevention from birth via proper diet, exercise, positive mental attitude and rest/play.
2. Allow the immune system to do what it is supposed to do without interference. Is there anything interfering with the optimum potential of the immune system? No, let the body heal itself. Yes, remove the optimum immune function inhibitors.
3. Immune system not enough? Chemical intervention.
4. Chemicals not enough? Surgery.
We also live a lifestyle that makes it not only inconvenient to let the body do its own work, but financially devastating as so many live check to check and are unable to take 4-5 days off every time they get a viral or bacterial infection.
/end rant
Posted on 6/4/18 at 8:06 pm to starsandstripes
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I have this wild thought that the healthcare industry should be 100% (as close as possible) to being private sector without the govt. The lone exception is cancer. I don't know what the money would look like, but it seems that it would be worthwhile for cancer care to be picked up by the govt - we would get a ton of data in a short time, and be able to refine treatments, administer treatments and so forth on a level never experienced before. I think we could virtually eliminate it.
I spent many years working around government funded healthcare researchers, and one thing was obvious, if you want a project to move at glacial speed, and cost as much as possible let the government run it. If you want something done quickly and effectively let the private sector do it, profit is a great motivator.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 8:07 pm to Slagathor
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hopefully they will figure out how to help her walk without sticks next
I laughed way too hard at this
Posted on 6/4/18 at 8:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Hiking poles
IDK. Perkins is definitely not a Polish name.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 9:04 pm to guedeaux
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Its already happening. I have said in many threads like this one that adoptive cell transfer will be the next big breakthrough in cancer treatment. The hard part is making it a feasible product. Taking these cells and expanding them and then getting them back to the bedside for therapy is a extremely difficult. Currently, with insurance paying for "standard-of-care" associated costs, it is >$100,000 per patient.
Also, the necessary pre-conditioning (i.e. lymphodepletion) and post-conditioning (e.g. high-dose of low-dose) IL2 are severely toxic.
We are at least a decade away from this being an approved, wide-spread therapeutic option, but it will be the next big paradigm shift in cancer treatments.
Hopefully it will have a high success rate against multiple types of cancer, which would allow it to be scaled and thus cheaper per patient.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:08 pm to Slagathor
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hopefully they will figure out how to help her walk without sticks nex
If I was cured of cancer I wouldn’t care if had to walk with sticks. I’d be thankful to be able to walk.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:36 pm to Nicky Parrish
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If I was cured of cancer I wouldn’t care if had to walk with sticks. I’d be thankful to be able to walk.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:39 pm to Nicky Parrish
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If I was cured of cancer I wouldn’t care if had to walk with sticks. I’d be thankful to be able to walk.
whoooooooooooosh
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