re: Do ER doctors earn a lot compared to other drs?

Not what I posted. I posted derm or higher ranked subspecialty, which means harder to get accepted into, since you can't comprehend.

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Let me know where your ignorant arse practices, I would never want to go there. Statically the highest ranked Med students don't go into EM. You can debate it all you want.

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I can guarantee you there are as many students with 250+ Step scores that match into EM any given year that match into Derm.

Derm had 214 this year. EM had 276.

Pediatrics had 253.

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If you are referring to 2020 your numbers are far off. EM had an average matched score of 231 versus a higher ranked subspecialty orthopedic surgery which was 245, according to the national residency matching program.

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My numbers are not wrong.


https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/students-residents/interactive-data/report-residents/2020/table-b2-usmle-step-1-and-step-2-ck-scores-first-year-residents-specialty

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Let me know where your ignorant arse practices, I would never want to go there. Statically the highest ranked Med students don't go into EM. You can debate it all you want.

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It's ok to be stupid as long as you are willing to learn. Instead of a "debate" with your made up numbers based on your feelings, here are the number of applicants who matched into each specialty with scores greater than 250 (highest sortable score) for the past 5 years. Source: LINK As is clear from the data, people at the top of their class go into every specialty, with the bulk of them going into internal medicine.

Anesthesia 880
Child Neuro 72
Derm 946
Radiology 1051
Emergency Med 1200
Family Med 397
General Surg. 1036
Internal Med 4894
IM/PEDs 285
IR 256
Neuro Surgery 420
Neurology 488
OBGYN 581
Ortho 1536
ENT 672
Pathology 254
PEDs 1011
PMnR 92
Plastics 353
Psych 419
Ras Onc 287
Vasc Surgery 61

I accept your apology and if you show up in my ED I will take great care of you.

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If you are referring to 2020 your numbers are far off. EM had an average matched score of 231 versus a higher ranked subspecialty orthopedic surgery which was 245, according to the national residency matching program.

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Now I see you don't really understand that the average score of a specialty has nothing to do what specialty anyone with a high score chooses to pursue. As you can see from the link you posted as well, people with the highest scores go into every specialty and your statement

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Statically the highest ranked Med students don't go into EM. You can debate it all you want.

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is just wrong.

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You are still wrong, geez I sure hope I never end up in an ED with you or "Your ED" if you can't understand statics aren't on your side. How can other subspecialties have a higher average if lower ranked applicants are being accepted? How about you dumb it down alittle more for us ignorant and stupid folks!!

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Sure, I'll dumb it down some more now that you have edited out at least some of your over night insults. I am not sure how my knowledge of statics will help, but I am happy to provide some simple statistics as I feel those are more likely to help you understand. Like I said before, if you are willing to learn, I'll help you out. The top applicants in each class can go into whatever specialty they like, and go into every specialty. I posted numbers above demonstrating this but maybe the raw numbers are making it difficult for you to interpret. I'll try percentages instead as that may make it easier for you to digest. Below are the percentage of applicants with scores greater than 250 (highest sortable score from my link above) who matched into each specialty for the past 5 years

Anesthesia 5.1%
Child Neuro 0.4%
Derm 5.5%
Radiology 6.1%
Emergency Med 7.0%
Family Med 2.3%
General Surgery 6.0%
Internal Medicine 28.5%
IM/PEDs 1.7%
IR 1.5%
Neuro Surgery 2.4%
Neurology 2.8%
OBGYN 3.4%
Ortho 8.9%
ENT 3.9%
Pathology 1.5%
PEDs 5.9%
PMnR 0.5%
Plastics 2.1%
Psych 2.4%
Ras Onc 1.7%
Vasc Surgery 0.4%

If you were to perform a similar exercise for the lowest scores set, you would find very few of them go into the more competitive specialties, which results in the average scores of those specialties being higher.

Simple summary:
Having higher scores enables applicants to go into whichever field they prefer, and the top 3 most common are internal medicine (by a wide margin), ortho, and emergency medicine. Not Dermatology. These applicants also tend to get their preferred institution come match day.

Having lower scores limits applicants ability to go into more competitive fields (though it does happen sometimes) and subsequently drives up average scores of these specialties.

EM had 2212 matches
Dermatology had 480 matches
Pediatrics had 2661 matches

How can you compare the three?

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So why couldn't you use the scores from last year and use the average step 1 and 2 score being they are available? Also let's go to above 259 average on both.

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Man you are really bad at this. I guess I'll try again. The numbers you listed appear to be from this site LINK. The numbers you wrote out are not above 259 average as you said, but instead people who scored above 259 on both Step 1 and Step 2. The percentages you listed are the percentage of applicants within each specialty who met those requirements, which is not at all what we were discussing (did you notice your percentages don't add up to 100?). The topic brought up was what specialty do the highest ranked applicants pursue, not the proportion of highly ranked applicants within any given specialty. I'll go over this, AGAIN, since you seem to want to understand. Applicants who are at the top of their class go into EVERY specialty. If you want to know the breakdown of 2020 applicants who scored above 259 on Step 1 AND scored above 259 on Step 2 and what specialty they went into, based on the website you referenced, I will give you the data and hope then maybe you will understand. Once again, internal medicine, by far, has highest number of applicants with the criteria you set.

Anesthesia 2.4%
Child Neuro 0.6%
Derm 6.6%
Emergency Med 5.5%
Family Med 1.3%
General Surgery 6.7%
Internal Medicine 26.3%
IM/PEDs 1.7%
medical Genetics 0.0%
Neuro Surgery 2.1%
Neurology 3.1%
Nulcear med 0.1%
OBGYN 2.8%
Ortho 11.2%
ophthalmology 3.1%
ENT 4.0%
Pathology 0.9%
PEDs 4.6%
PMnR 0.2%
Plastics 2.0%
Psych 1.7%
Ras Onc 2.6%
Rads 5.9%
thoraic surgery 0.9%
urology 3.2%
Vasc Surgery 0.5%

Are you starting to understand now?

The number of ER Positions is growing and there is a going to be a glut of Physicians and a decrease in salary