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re: DNA expert, NAACP weigh in on evidence in Maddison Brooks case

Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:37 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:37 am to
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I am calm, answer the question

You asked a bad question.

As I said before (a few times), whatever those reports reflect is one piece of evidence. The lack of DNA is another. The jury has to weigh them.

You're asking a leading question about finding the truth of that incident. I have said multiple times I'm only discussing this in terms of the litigation/prosecution.

Again, calm down. Stop being so emotional. And ask better questions if you want to legitimately participate in the discussion.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:37 am to
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You seem way too emotional for this discussion


I mean, youre the one taking this to histrionic levels.

Everyone here is aware that a lack of DNA evidence can make it harder to convict but that does nothing to differentiate between forced and consensual.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:38 am to
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I mean, youre the one taking this to histrionic levels.

Which post, Rog?

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Everyone here is aware that a lack of DNA evidence can make it harder to convict but that does nothing to differentiate between forced and consensual.

"Forced" isn't really an issue in this case, from what has been reported.

Lack of ability to give consent, is a major issue, but that is not "force".

Consent, however, has nothing to do with a discussion about a lack of DNA evidence.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 10:39 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:39 am to
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Lack of ability to give consent, is a major issue,


What does that have to do with DNA evidence?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:39 am to
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What does that have to do with DNA evidence?

I actually just added that to my post.

No idea why you brought up force, for this reason.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:40 am to
Pull out or condom?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:41 am to
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Consent, however, has nothing to do with a discussion about a lack of DNA evidence.


Then why are you claiming its a difficult case without DNA? Are you suggesting that theres no proof any physical contact occurred?

If they claim its consensual, why would DNA matter?
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:43 am to
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Then why are you claiming its a difficult case without DNA?

Because there are issues with proving penetration, which is a required part of rape.

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Are you suggesting that theres no proof any physical contact occurred?

No. That isn't the burden.

The defense just has to argue that one reasonable alternative scenario can exist, other than the one the prosecution relies on. They don't have to prove anything.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:43 am to
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and one of the men, Kaivon Washington, told the Investigative Unit while on his way to jail that he had sex with the woman.


Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:47 am to
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You seem way too emotional for this discussion.

Calm down and ask a better question.



i.e. She asked one you don't have a flip answer to.

"Uh, sit right down Little Lady and calm yourself."


What a fricking piece of shite. You are disgusting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
465679 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:48 am to
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i.e. She asked one you don't have a flip answer to.

Bad timing. I already did.

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What a fricking piece of shite. You are disgusting.


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You seem way too emotional for this discussion.

Calm down
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
58300 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:52 am to
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Stop being so emotional. And ask better questions if you want to legitimately participate in the discussion.
I’m not emotional - and there is no such thing as a bad question - putting your subjective opinion on a question is quite - emotional
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295514 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:54 am to
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No. That isn't the burden.

The defense just has to argue that one reasonable alternative scenario can exist,


DNA isn't going to matter as much as you pretend in this thread.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295514 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:55 am to
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putting your subjective opinion on a question is quite - emotional


He's in that rut and refuses to get out. His tactic is to drag you in the rut with him.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
58300 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:58 am to
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He's in that rut and refuses to get out. His tactic is to drag you in the rut with him.
he needs to review his tactics
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295514 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:59 am to
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he needs to review his tactics


Hes been using the same ones for at least a decade. It definitely could use a freshening.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:13 am to
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and there is no such thing as a bad question

I said ask better questions. I never said it was a "bad" question.

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putting your subjective opinion on a question is quite - emotional

This isn't even true
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
465679 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:14 am to
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DNA isn't going to matter as much as you pretend in this thread.


Doubtful.

Remember, all they have to do is sway 1/12 jurors to prevent a conviction. This wasn't a straightforward case with an easy conviction WITH the DNA evidence.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 11:15 am
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3276 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:15 am to
Didn’t one of the defense attorneys already publicly state that the sex was consensual? He made this statement prior to the release of her BAC.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
58300 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:16 am to
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. I never said it was a "bad" question.


Yes you did:
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You asked a bad question.

Nanny nanny booby booby

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This isn't even true
subjectivity is ruled by what? Facts (haha)??
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