re: Defeat the Nurse Practitioner scope of practice expansion - Louisiana SB 187

Yes an optometrist from the 70s is almost unrecognizable compared to the new age surgical version. This is a new phenomenon. In the past they could not prescribe medication at all

They are not a physician, but they are a doctor. Words have meanings. Medical doctors in the English speaking countries fricked that up.

Interestingly, the etymology of doctor does not originally link to medicine but to academic pursuits.

What I said is this bill could lead to some poor patient outcomes including mortality due to inappropriate clinical decisions being made due to lack of training. 100 percent of patients do not live forever. The job of a doctor is to ward that off

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No matter what you say, in the end and in their mind they are above you, they are right and you are wrong.

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I'll be the first to tell you that I'm often wrong and just a normal guy.

When it comes to discussing the integral parts of healthcare that I deal with on a daily basis, I'm probably a little more right than you.
When it comes to discussing (pick literally any other field of discussion in the world), I'm just another guy.
When it comes to discussing wherever you deal with on a normal basis, you're probably more right than me.



But generalizations are good. You just suggested that doctors are out for their own interest in a thread about a bill where a group of people with less training are trying to deliver the same care at the same cost (taken into account extra referrals and lab tests generated. There's no statistical difference in the cost of care but increased burden on the subspecialists level) while held to an inferior standard. I cannot say I follow your logic here.

Cancer frequently presents to the primary clinic. I would say it's very rare for a patient to wander into the neurosurgeons office and say hey man I've got brain Mets would you look me over? Cancer is a PCP find

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LSUfan4444

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Do you know how many times I've seen doctors do surgeries for free, see a patient for free, stay late to see someone, etc, etc

So many I can't even count. I've seen plenty personally give someone money for medication.

You act like doctors are Wallstreet executives out for blood and solely driven by profits. The majority of us are compassionate and enjoy helping people like alot of other members of the healthcare community. I don't know what experiences you have had that shaped your feelings about doctors, but they are not typical.

I
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It's very nice to meet you

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What does a patient lose by the passing of this bill?

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They lose nothing, but gain everything.

You ever seen a NP? They treat you like a human 100x more than a doctor. They also don't treat you like a cog in an assembly line.

Do you think for one second that a NP who wants to consult with someone over a patient's condition wouldn't do so?

The passage of this bill lowers your medical costs, increases your providers, and has absolutely zero downsides.

Its not that they can see and NP for everything that can see an MD for..only somethings. But it's those things that the MDs will lose that has them shitting on their leather recliners.