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re: Creationism and Evolution Questions
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:17 pm to EphesianArmor
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:17 pm to EphesianArmor
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While you're at at, how does one "disprove" the existence of God?
Disprove evolution if you’re so salty about my stating a simple fact.
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:20 pm to BeerMoney
And both are possible at the same time. Evolution could be intelligently created by God.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:21 pm to EphesianArmor
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Precisely. You're a breath of fresh air and common sense in this thread.
lol?
We’ve seen many such things. Many examples of genetic mutation in “fast evolving”animals.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:30 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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How do Creationists reconcile its incestuous design (brothers and sisters required to make babies to create the world’s population)?
There is a professionals called “biblical apologists” (not to be confused with scholars) who use their imagination and ignorance of science to pull the wool over eyes of their believers who have an innate willingness to believe what makes them happy, despite the overwhelming scientific facts and evidence which contradict their beliefs. They want their deeply held beliefs to be true, so the read books and listen to speeches of apologists to use confirmation bias to make them feel good and special.
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How do Evolutionists
This is a biblical apologist word. There is no such thing in reality. There are scientists of various subjects, and those who understand scientific concepts and theories. No offense, but if you don’t want to be immediately thought of as ignorant, unintelligent, uninformed, and uneducated by educated professionals with scientific backgrounds, don’t use the word “evolutionists”.
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rationalize the (incomprehensibly) the amazing design of life
Look up the left recurrent laryngeal nerve for an example of what would be unintelligent design. The human body is riddled with poor designs if it was designed, which it wasn’t.
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just random chance
It’s obvious you are listening to biblical apologists as this is a very common poor argument they use all the time. There is some randomness in evolution - primarily mutations, but evolution is not driven by random chance, but in fact a mechanism called natural selection.
Speaking of incest, I think my favorite incestuous story is not Adam and Eve or the one about Ham castrating his father Noah, but the one about the origins of the Ammonites and the Moabites. Lot’s two daughters rape him and their sons resultant from incest are the fathers of the Ammonites and Moabites. I always get a kick out of the authors of Genesis calling the Moabites and Ammonites incestuous bastards. LoL
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:30 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:And there are species that haven't evolved in any observable way in millions of years because they fill a niche. His point about seeing bacteria change and evolve new traits but not pop out a whole new species every hundred years is a fresh take, though.
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We’ve seen many such things. Many examples of genetic mutation in “fast evolving”animals
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:53 pm to WaydownSouth
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At some point no matter what you believe, there were only two humans
Is that based on a willingness to believe ancient scribblings of peoples obsessed with blood sacrifice to their bloodthirsty god, or is that based on a body facts obtained through the scientific method?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:57 pm to AmosMosesAndTwins
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Not necessarily procreating. Homo sapiens mated with Neanderthals, you can work backward from there.
The guy might believe the earth is 6000 years old and that the devil put the Neanderthal fossils (and homo Erectus, Habilis, Australopithecenes, etc.) in the ground to make evolution appear to be true to test his faith in mythical allegorical stories.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:01 pm to Harald Ekernson
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Look up the left recurrent laryngeal nerve for an example of what would be unintelligent design. The human body is riddled with poor designs if it was designed, which it wasn’t.
You have interpreted as intelligent design. Nope. Amazement of life and how precious it is is more like it. Take dat next breath or next swallow and consider the physiological and anatomical and chemical and not Biblical system that allows the inputs, process and outputs. Dat chemistry alone is almost unfathomable.
What is amazing to me is how unamazed many are. The rational brain, ironically, is strong in many. Supertramp’s Logical song has many layers just for your post.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:05 pm to EphesianArmor
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What does "the science" say about these claims of "early primates"? What does science say about how a "early primate" DNA and its every system could somehow magically switched sequence?
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Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, while other great apes have 24. Human chromosome 2 is a result of a fusion of two ancestral ape chromosomes — this has been directly observed in the genome.
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Humans share about 98.8% of their DNA with chimpanzees, our closest living relatives.
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Endogenous retroviruses embedded in our genome in the exact same locations as other primates.
Science, out.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:07 pm to Harald Ekernson
quote:He loves you and wants you to spend eternity having an endless best day ever with Him, but He's also got a sense of humor and likes to play little jokes that end with you cast into hell if you fall for them.
The guy might believe the earth is 6000 years old and that the devil put the Neanderthal fossils (and homo Erectus, Habilis, Australopithecenes, etc.) in the ground to make evolution appear to be true to test his faith in mythical allegorical stories.
He actually sounds pretty cool when I think about it like that. I love dark humor.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:09 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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Amazement of life and how precious it is is more like it.
Life is amazing but I’m not sure what you are attempting to communicate.
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Take dat
You lost me.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:09 pm to northshorebamaman
Do people not know the old testament are parables?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:13 pm to Harald Ekernson
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The guy might believe the earth is 6000 years old and that the devil put the Neanderthal fossils (and homo Erectus, Habilis, Australopithecenes, etc.) in the ground to make evolution appear to be true to test his faith in mythical allegorical stories.
God created us in his image and gave us wisdom teeth and a tailbone.
Does god have a tail and monkey jaw?
But I thought Satan was the one with the tail.
Wait a minute. Is god really Satan pretending to be god pretending to give us tails and adequate teeth space?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:14 pm to OweO
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Do people not know the old testament are parables?
More like pair o bulls. Amirite?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:15 pm to OweO
quote:Good question, oweo. Im not sure. Never thought I'd ask you this but did you have more you were going to say?
Do people not know the old testament are parables?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:19 pm to northshorebamaman
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He actually sounds pretty cool when I think about it like that. I love dark humor.
Yeah he’s just a regular dude that makes mistakes like anyone else. Like that time he didn’t teach Adam and Eve about right and wrong, and put a beautiful forbidden tree with the best fruit in the middle of their home without as much as a fence or forcefield. Or the time he regretted making mankind and then also regretted killing them all in a flood. Remember that time too he killed an upstanding guy’s whole family, slaves, and animals just to prove a point to Satan? In a way he’s like the honey badger, which is a badass animal who doesn’t give a shite and takes what he wants.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:21 pm to northshorebamaman
No
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:23 pm to Harald Ekernson
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Like that time he didn’t teach Adam and Eve about right and wrong, and put a beautiful forbidden tree with the best fruit in the middle of their home without as much as a fence or forcefield. Or the time he regretted making mankind and then also regretted killing them all in a flood. Remember that time too he killed an upstanding guy’s whole family, slaves, and animals just to prove a point to Satan?
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:23 pm to AmosMosesAndTwins
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Is god really Satan pretending to be god
Who was it that convinced King David to take a census, according to 2 Samuel 24 and 1 Chronicles 21? I think you will have your answer.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:31 pm to Harald Ekernson
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Life is amazing but I’m not sure what you are attempting to communicate.
It ain’t a silver haired, masculine God sitting on a throne in the heavens creating via an intelligent design blueprint. Yes, REM, Mr Charles Darwin had the gall to ask…but it ain’t reduced simply to allele mutations either.
In my time on Earth, I have come to appreciate more and more how much a person’s life context plays a significant role in how they think and what they believe. What they were taught at 3-10yo, and by whom, is significant influence in belief / thinking outcomes.
Fascinated by how people think, why they think what they think, and how they communicate what they think.
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