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re: Could you last one 5-minute round with a fly weight UFC fighter?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:23 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:23 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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just wrestle them down with your weight and lay on them
I have 90lbs on my son, and no wrestling experience, and he destroys when we wrestle because that is his sport. I assure you I cannot lay on him because I have tried.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:24 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Best chance I think is to literally get on the ground in the fetal position with your hands over your head. They can't kick you while you are down so they would probably have to punch you in the ribs and open you up for a choke or arm bar. That said, first shot to the ribs and I'm done.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:27 pm to DanTiger
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I have 90lbs on my son, and no wrestling experience
Well I do need to retract what I said. If you have bjj or wrestling experience then just lay on them and actively maintain position on them.
To clarify, I never said I would WIN the match but I could maintain for 5 minutes.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:27 pm to boom roasted
quote:220 6'0"
How big are you?
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:28 pm to Crawdaddy
I think for an untrained fighter, you need to have at least 200 lbs of muscle on a flyweight to have a decided advantage, and that's just guessing. I am of the belief that physics takes over at some point and the guy wouldn't be able to hyperextend your limb or get into position to choke you out with that size advantage.
But that hypothetical untrained fighter is exceedingly rare to find, so pretty much everyone here should say no.
But to just last 5 minutes? I think a well trained athlete with a size advantage curled up in a ball could, yes.
But that hypothetical untrained fighter is exceedingly rare to find, so pretty much everyone here should say no.
But to just last 5 minutes? I think a well trained athlete with a size advantage curled up in a ball could, yes.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:29 pm to boom roasted
I am 6'4 250.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:30 pm to The Mick
No
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:30 pm to Goldrush25
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I think for an untrained fighter, you need to have at least 200 lbs of muscle on a flyweight to have a decided advantage
Muscle just makes you gas faster. 200 lbs of muscle would be very hard to carry through a fight for anyone.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:31 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Well if you're good enough on the ground to avoid a sub, it's all about whether you would get KO'd in 5 min.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:31 pm to Goldrush25
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you need to have at least 200 lbs of muscle on a flyweight to have a decided advantage
No way. You are saying someone would need to be over 300 pounds to have a decided advantage?
I most profesional athletes in the 200-270 lb range would easily last 5 min.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:31 pm to DanTiger
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200 lbs of muscle would be very hard to carry through a fight for anyone
but all you would have to do is get on the ground and maintain. Wouldn't have to do much.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:32 pm to DanTiger
Well we're talking about just lasting. Someone could just play a prevent defense and just play defense and last if they were a decent enough athlete and had enough of a size advantage.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:32 pm to UpToPar
I don't think he meant 200lb extra but be at least 200lbs of muscle
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:33 pm to UpToPar
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I most profesional athletes in the 200-270 lb range would easily last 5 min.
No they wouldn't. Training for fighting is different thn any other kind of training. You must train your body to be pushed to nearly 100% of it's anerobic limit for the length of the round and be able to recover for the next round. Unless you train for this you cannot do it, I assure you.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:34 pm to The Mick
I did no-gi BJJ for 3 years and gi for 2. I was sparring partners with guys who fought. My boxing is what I would call better than the average CE.
I'm still going to say No.
ETA: 5 minutes in regards to fighting or combat sports is a lifetime.
I'm still going to say No.
ETA: 5 minutes in regards to fighting or combat sports is a lifetime.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:35 pm to DanTiger
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No they wouldn't. Training for fighting is different thn any other kind of training. You must train your body to be pushed to nearly 100% of it's anerobic limit for the length of the round and be able to recover for the next round. Unless you train for this you cannot do it, I assure you.
He isn't fighting back, he is just trying to not get KO's/submitted.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:35 pm to UpToPar
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No way. You are saying someone would need to be over 300 pounds to have a decided advantage?
I most profesional athletes in the 200-270 lb range would easily last 5 min.
Well my first example is someone who isn't trained as a fighter actually being able to beat a flyweight. I think the size advantage would have to be significant. But just to last? I think a lot of well trained athletes could play defense and put themselves in a precarious position.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:36 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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but all you would have to do is get on the ground and maintain. Wouldn't have to do much.
He isn't going to lay there for you though. I have never taken any grappling so I realize I suck but I honestly can't hold my 160lb son down because he is trained and I am not.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:36 pm to Goldrush25
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Well my first example is someone who isn't trained as a fighter actually being able to beat a flyweight. I think the size advantage would have to be significant. But just to last? I think a lot of well trained athletes could play defense and put themselves in a precarious position.
Gotcha, I didn't know you were talking about actually beating the flyweight.
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