re: Cossacks member alleges Waco cops let Twin Peaks wounded die

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I've got one word for you "RICO".

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Well of course, thats how they get any criminal enterprise

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The Aryan Brotherhood angle is one that's popped up only in the last month or so as far as I know. I was just curious if there was any legs to the story or how they tied into all this.

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There are AB and ABT everywhere in Texas as well as AC so who knows, I try and stay away from all that now a days.

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In one of the threads in the first few days after this happened, I asked about a pic I saw. To me, it looked like it had to be an undercover cop. Shaved head, longish goatee, tatted up; but he was wearing either black body armor or a tactical vest and was armed with what appeared to be an M-4. What initially caught my attention was that his jeans were tucked into cowboy boots with a lot of red detailing on them. I thought the boots were rather unusual, but I'm not a cowboy boot guy, a cop or a biker, so what the frick do I know.

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I've not see pictures to back it up, but I've read were numerous witnesses at the scene saw at least one member of the Cossacks take off his cut (vest with Cossacks patches), put on a ATF (or similar) jacket and start processing the scene. Take that for what it's worth though.

I've also heard there was one or more bikers picked up at the Twin Peaks that day who once they taken from the scene simply vanished. Like the story of the guy swapping jackets, i have no idea if that's actually true.


The bottom line is we simply don't know what went down that day. But it's looking more and more like it was an ongoing operation by federal, state, and local cops to take down the Bandidos and the Cossacks were just the tool they used to help do it and now they have been discarded. That's why so many of them were arrested even the one's who had nothing to do with the fight. I don't think the cops meant for what happened at Twin Peaks to turn into a bloody shootout but it did and now they're trying to cover it up.

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The cops knew about the meeting and had uniformed guys at Twin Peaks. It didn't make sense to me that a plainsclothed detective would be there, unless he went to the meeting in his undercover role. (And to the guys who will undoubtedly be calling bullshite on this post, No, I don't know where his vest and rifle came from.)

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That's another aspect of this story that is interesting, the amount of cops and firepower they had already not just close, but in position and ready to open up at a second's notice. I've been to COC meetings and know there's always surveillance from the Feds down to the local cops. But I've never heard of them being positioned and ready like they were for what is supposedly a routine COC meeting. Nobody who knows anything about how COC's work would for a moment suspect anything could happen like what happened that day. COC meetings have been held on a regular basis in all 50 states for decades and never has there been one incident even close to like what happened at Waco. But the cops were already set up and waiting on WWIII to start. They even had pole cameras set up and pointed at the parking lot. This leads to one question.... Why?

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rom everything I've heard and read, here's what I suspect happened. Twin Peaks was not a spontaneous fight between rival clubs. It was planed and orchestrated. Long before Twin Peaks, The Cossacks were infiltrated by either the Feds or State. These UC's are the ones who pushed for the Texas bottom rocker knowing it would create strife with the Bandidos and possibly result in a war that could be used to take down the Bandidos. Basically, the Cossacks were Patsies in this whole thing. This bad blood between the Cossacks and Bandidos simmered and sometimes boiled over into fights long before Twin Peaks. These UC's then sought out a meeting with the Bandidos to "talk peace" and they chose the COC meeting at Twin Peaks for this truce meeting to take place. But instead of coming to talk peace at Twin Peaks, the UC's instead instigated what they hoped would be a typical "biker brawl" that could be used against the Bandidos. Arrest some or all of them, hit them with various charges, use those charges as leverage to get at least some to talk about the higher-up's in the club to bring them down as well. That's why the Feds, state and locals were not just watching this COC meeting like they normally do. Instead they had everything from snipers, SWAT, and even an armored car in position and ready to move in as soon as the fray started. The cops knew before hand there was going to be a fight because it was their UC that had set up the whole thing. Only problem was that instead of a just a brawl, it turned into a massacre

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This seems about right

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Give it a break man.

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Feel free to not post if you're not interested in this subject. There's plenty of other threads to choose from.

I hope you're wrong, but sadly, your theory actually sounds plausible to me.

State/Feds can't infiltrate the Bandidos or otherwise gather enough evidence to bring them down, so they put a mole in the Cossacks to start shite with the Bandidos. Hmmmm, talk about a flanking attack.

It would sound ridiculous if not for previous govt operations like Fast and Furious.