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re: CDC knew COVID vax associated with myocarditis but left off post-vax surveys

Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:22 am to
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:22 am to
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I don’t know a single person who had a bad reaction to the vaccine.


Well, except for the sore-arse arm, but other than that, every one I know, who has taken it, is fine.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
23324 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:15 am to
They are ran by Democrats. They don’t care. They got what they wanted which was control
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:19 am to
First person locally to get the jab was a nurse who had to be put in ICU immediately after.

He lived.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:17 am to
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If the article or author was truly interested in providing information, they'd write it like an adult for starters. Then they should include the pros and cons and site information so the reader can make an informed decision and check relevant facts. I can tell you w/o even reading the article that the agenda of that article isn't intended to be balanced.



Exactly, 100% THIS. These folks don't get it. They complain about liberal media pushing a certain spin/agenda as opposed to presenting facts without bias and allowing people to draw their own conclusions, but they want to waive those expectations for anything related to the vaccines because it fulfills their confirmation bias.

And yeah, the hypochondriacs, those who had flu-like symptoms and missed a day or two of work, those who went to an urgent care because they didn't understand that those reactions were normal, and those who had legitimate anaphylactic allergic reactions to certain vaccine ingredients are all counted in these. And I suspect any push to keep certain data from being released is because Vsafe has personally-identifiable data on each participant, the release of which would likely violate HIPPA.

There's no "gotcha" here.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:23 am to
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So if V-safe can't be used because the honor system doesn't work, and VAERS isn't reliable for this same reason, then how do we know of the "efficacy of the vaccines" that is reported by the CDC? How do we know that the "vaccines work"?


I'm not sure how you equate these to the same thing. The CDC's data comes from controlled studies. And no, what we have today does not work for what's out there in the wild today.

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We just saw the head of the CDC, 5 times jabbed, come down with Covid for the 2nd or 3rd time.


Again, it doesn't work (that's not to say it didn't for the variants it was designed for). And no one who got vaccinated needs more boosters now, especially if they eventually contracted the virus. It's no longer a "novel" pathogen to their immune system.

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Which goes to the broader point, the CDC really can't be trusted because they have a pretty clear agenda.


Arguable, but they certainly have better standing than some rag that doesn't even pretend to be objective in its reporting.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:25 am to
The fact that you see...

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Medical professionals


and

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everyone else


...as the same when it comes to medical decision-making is telling. You do you, bro.
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