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re: Carolyn Bryant Donham, whose accusations led to murder of Emmett Till, dies at 88

Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:26 am to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:26 am to
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What theology leads to this belief? The amount of people that profess Christianity and say “you are unforgivable and don’t deserve salvation like I DO!” makes me think y’all can’t read or are false devotees


Not everyone is brainwashed into religion, man.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:27 am to
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Not everyone is brainwashed into religion, man.
Wellvthen there isn’t hell waiting on anyone then. So his post still wouldn’t make sense
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:30 am to
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Nothing is as solid as a “FBI source” that comes forward 70 years later anonymously right?



He's about as reliable as a woman who changed her original story 50 years after that story led to a murder.

Also where did I say he was anonymous? His name is redacted in the report.

Regardless, we have instances of her participating in three separate identification events, changing her story, and key people, such as her SIL, who was supposedly taking care of the kids in the back of the store, not being at the store.

There isn't any evidence that Till did anything to this woman other than whistling, of which there is no agreeance about what caused Till to whistle. Yet we have you insisting upon her morality. No idea why you've taken the positions you have, but they aren't based on evidence.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:31 am to
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The crime committed was whistling at such an ugly woman
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:32 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:35 am to
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The crime committed was whistling at such an ugly woman


Strange how Democrat women are still ugly, vile liars.

I can promise you the kid did nothing.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:36 am to
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There isn't any evidence that Till did anything to this woman other than whistling, of which there is no agreeance about what caused Till to whistle
This is completely irrelevant. He didn’t deserve anything that happened to him even if he did whistle and flirt with her. Not a single rational soul really cares what Till did, because it’s inconsequential to what those men did to him. It’s just something happened, but who cares really?

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Yet we have you insisting upon her morality. No idea why you've taken the positions you have, but they aren't based on evidence.
Im insisting there are a plethora of instances where she wasn’t the one responsible in anyway for his murder and in fact may have withheld info from her husband hoping it wouldn’t happen. Fact is we don’t know, so I am not of the opinion to crucify her based on he said she said “evidence”

But please, continue with your mob. Ironic right?
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:37 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:47 am to
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This is completely irrelevant. He didn’t deserve anything that happened to him even if he did whistle and flirt with her. Not a single rational soul really cares what Till did, because it’s inconsequential to what those men did to him. It’s just something happened, but who cares really?



Huh. Then why did you say this?

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Or do you think he did absolutely NOTHING and he was randomly picked for the brutal murder?


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Im insisting there are a plethora of instances where she wasn’t the one responsible in anyway for his murder and in fact may have withheld info from her husband hoping it wouldn’t happen.



The evidence that she withheld information from her husband is not strong. You are holding onto that rather than dealing with the evidence at large.

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Fact is we don’t know, so I am not of the opinion to crucify her based on he said she said “evidence”


But we have a constellation of evidence that we can absolutely make a judgement on. To say we can't is straight up idiotic, and shows a very weird groundless epistemic worldview. It's also nonsense because we aren't getting the 'he said' in this instance. You are elevating her words, and not what she was reported to have done, above everything. You want to believe her because that is what you want to believe.

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But please, continue with your mob. Ironic right?



What? Where have I suggested that she be punished specifically? She deserves blame for her part in the murder. Read that closely. You want to absolve her from the repercussions of her original story despite evidence that she participated directly in events that led to Till's murder.

Also, you need some perspective. I'm a dude talking about the nuances of a case to a person who is hellbent on believing what they want to believe. I'm not leading a mob. You might think so because for some reason your tied to a very particular outcome (i.e. the one which absolves Donham of any blame at all). But all I'm suggesting is that she played a much larger role in the murder than she herself admits, because the constellation of her actions (not her words) shows that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:53 am to
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Huh. Then why did you say this?
Bexause a poster inferred nothing at all happened. So I asked if he truly though NOTHING happened and the murder was completely random. How is this so difficult for you?

You are now trying to twist that into the false narrative that saying something hallned meaner the end result was justified. Its a hack move and you know it
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:55 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:54 am to
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Bexause a poster inferred nothing at all happened. So I asked if he truly though NOTHING happened and the murder was completely random. How is this so difficult for you?



What does the preponderance of evidence suggest man? And nicely done not reading anything else I wrote.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:55 am to
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What does the preponderance of evidence suggest man?
That something occurred between till and Donham in the store. To deny that is not listening to anyone or anything involved, including tills own friends
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:57 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:00 am to
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That something occurred between twill and Donham in the store.


Right, the supposed incident between Till and Donham which no one has ever supported other than Donham. And I believe that particular portion, the part of the testimony where she asserted that Till 'accosted her,' she recanted in 2007. So where does that leave us?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108520 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:03 am to
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Right, the supposed incident between Till and Donham which no one has ever supported other than Donham.
this is a lie, outfight, again by you. Tills own friends say he whistled at her….

I have said MULTIPLE times I do not believe Donhams court room testimony of what happened.

You honestly seem to struggle with reading. I said SOMETHING happened at the store, clearly based on testimony from both sides of the case. I never said Donhams testimony of the events is what happened.

This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39290 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:11 am to
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Tills own friends say he whistled at her….


No they don't. The first witness, whose name is redacted, says 'Maurice told me to go in behind him and make sure he didn't say anything that he shouldn't have, but I don't know if he said anything before I got there, I don't know. But while I was in there, he didn't. He paid for his items and we left together, we walked out calmly, I didn't think anything was wrong at the time,' which of course contradicts Donham.

One witness said that he believes Till was whistling at a bad move by the checker player, which happened as Donham was going to her car.

A confidential source who was present inside the store observed Till entering the store, purchasing bubble gum, and exiting the store without incident. This source states that they recalled a whistle but saw no details about it.

There is a strong question at what Till whistled at.

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I have said MULTIPLE times I do not believe Donhams court room testimony of what happened.



But you do believe her testimony that she was afraid to tell her husband and that 'shows where her moral compass is,' right?

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I said SOMETHING happened at the store, clearly based on testimony from both sides of the case


Yeah, the testimony from multiple witnesses suggest nothing happened inside the store, certainly nothing that supported Donham's version of events. You should learn to read carefully yourself my man.


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108520 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:15 am to
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No they don't.


Sigh. Lie number 4

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According to Simeon Wright and Wheeler Parker, Till wolf-whistled at Bryant. Wright said "I think [Emmett] wanted to get a laugh out of us or something," adding, "He was always joking around, and it was hard to tell when he was serious." Wright stated that following the whistle he became immediately alarmed. "Well, it scared us half to death," Wright recalled. "You know, we were almost in shock. We couldn't get out of there fast enough, because we had never heard of anything like that before. A black boy whistling at a white woman? In Mississippi? No." Wright stated "The Ku Klux Klan and night riders were part of our daily lives".


Once again, it’s irrelevant to the murder. I just want to clear up your lies

You honestly need to get your shite together in here. You are out of control
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:16 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39290 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:19 am to
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Sigh. Lie number 4


What does the FBI report say? You really want one witness to have a definitive explanation, seeing as how you take Donham at her words for one thing, absolving her of any blame with respect to her testimony, etc. That's not the way it works. There were multiple witness, with no agreement on what Till whistled at.

Also why are you avoiding the question about her moral compass?

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You honestly need to get your shite together in here. You are out of control



Please bitch.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by CrappyPants
Member since Apr 2021
1038 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:27 am to
Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness....

She broke that commandment.

I hope Jesus kicks her arse.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108520 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:27 am to
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What does the FBI report say? You really want one witness
The FBI report, the fbi report

How do you feel about a report that chooses to leave out the testimony from the cousin of tills who drove him to the store and was with him during the events? Does that tell you anything?

And again, so it can get through your skull, here is what he said. So you can be a man and correct your outfight lie from earlier, or hang on to it as a fool

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the never talked to me. They never interviewed me The FBI report completed in 2006: "According to Simeon Wright and Wheeler Parker,[38] Till wolf-whistled at Bryant. Wright said "I think [Emmett] wanted to get a laugh out of us or something," adding, "He was always joking around, and it was hard to tell when he was serious." Wright stated that following the whistle he became immediately alarmed. "Well, it scared us half to death," Wright recalled. "You know, we were almost in shock. We couldn't get out of there fast enough, because we had never heard of anything like that before. A black boy whistling at a white woman? In Mississippi? No." Wright stated "The Ku Klux Klan and night riders were part of our daily lives".[
And once again, this is still irrelevant to me to his murder. It’s harmless
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:28 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39290 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:29 am to
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How do you feel about a report that chooses to leave out the testimony from the cousin of tills who drove him to the store and was with him during the events? Does that tell you anything?



Does that witness negate the other witness?

And once again, do you still find Donham's moral compass to be unerring?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108520 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:30 am to
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Does that witness negate the other witness?
Did you outright lie? Yes or no? Or maybe you were just so ignorant you didn’t even realize Tills cousin Wright gave statements. Which one was it?
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:31 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39290 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:32 am to
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Or maybe you were just so ignorant you didn’t even realize Tills cousin Wright gave statements.


Wright's statement is one among a constellation of statements you idiot. You don't take one person's word for things and just run with it. You 'trust, but verify.' Again, why does Wright's testimony negate the other witness?

Also, why aren't you answering my question about her unerring moral compass?
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