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Posted on 3/10/26 at 3:29 am to Dragula
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Universal healthcare…. cheaper to have assisted suicide than to pay for medical treatment.
Canada has been declining medical treatment for the elderly for years in an attempt to expedite their death.
Soylent Green is people !
And Canada’s MAID policy is not about a humane option to alleviate needless suffering anymore than virtually unrestricted abortion on demand for profit is about the health of the mother.
Underneath the innocuous, seemingly reasonable euphemisms, are foundational financial calculations balancing healthcare costs for the unborn, elderly, mentally, emotionally, and physically infirm with the perceived potential relative “worth” of those individuals to society.
For now, in Canada, it’s an individual’s “choice”, a choice that’s almost certain to quickly pass muster with a sympathetic physician. It will not be long in the future that individual choice will be superseded by the medical community operating for the benefit of the state in deciding to consign, wholesale, entire discreet populations to the death mills.
Absent radical dissent here in America to philosophically viewing humans as utilitarian calculations where the state decides who can live and who must die, our Republic is not far behind Canada.
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Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed,
and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction,
while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:15 am to stout
There is nothing about physician assisted suicide which is anyone's business other than the individual involved, their family and their healthcare provider. Everyone else should sit down and shut the frick up...its none of our business.
My dad is 86 years old and has not eaten or drank anything orally in a year. He has gone from 230 pounds and pretty physically active to 135 pounds and almost bed ridden. Its costing Medicare - you and me and everyone in the US who earns a salary - right at $15K a month for him to exist in the condition he is in. Other than the loss of lean muscle which has rendered him almost bedridden the diet he is on has his bloodwork and associated "physical" markers better than they have been in years. He is liable to live 20 or more years like this. He is pretty satisfied - he has always been an amazing person to me but his ability to cope with not eating...at 230 pounds its obvious eating was a major part of his quality of life...for over a year and not being crazier than a shite house is a testament to the human spirit. It is not typical...his health care providers tell us every chance they get they have never had a patient who was as stoic about being in a similar condition. I say all of that to say this....if he made the decision to end his life on his own terms I would be devastated but I would support him because, at the end of the day, it is HIS life, not mine or anyone else's....and it is no one's business. Forcing someone to live in that or even worse condition to satisfy some moral leaning or selfishness in not wanting to lose them is the cruelest thing one person could do to another. It is a decision which is one that an individual should be allowed to make and anyone who doesn't like it can deal with THEIR shortcomings and mind their own damned business.
My dad is 86 years old and has not eaten or drank anything orally in a year. He has gone from 230 pounds and pretty physically active to 135 pounds and almost bed ridden. Its costing Medicare - you and me and everyone in the US who earns a salary - right at $15K a month for him to exist in the condition he is in. Other than the loss of lean muscle which has rendered him almost bedridden the diet he is on has his bloodwork and associated "physical" markers better than they have been in years. He is liable to live 20 or more years like this. He is pretty satisfied - he has always been an amazing person to me but his ability to cope with not eating...at 230 pounds its obvious eating was a major part of his quality of life...for over a year and not being crazier than a shite house is a testament to the human spirit. It is not typical...his health care providers tell us every chance they get they have never had a patient who was as stoic about being in a similar condition. I say all of that to say this....if he made the decision to end his life on his own terms I would be devastated but I would support him because, at the end of the day, it is HIS life, not mine or anyone else's....and it is no one's business. Forcing someone to live in that or even worse condition to satisfy some moral leaning or selfishness in not wanting to lose them is the cruelest thing one person could do to another. It is a decision which is one that an individual should be allowed to make and anyone who doesn't like it can deal with THEIR shortcomings and mind their own damned business.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:21 am to AwgustaDawg
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There is nothing about physician assisted suicide which is anyone's business other than the individual involved, their family and their healthcare provider. Everyone else should sit down and shut the frick up...its none of our business.
In a scenario where all players participated in "good faith," absolutely yes but it is well-known that it is not the case.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:55 am to AwgustaDawg
no one is reading that.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:06 am to stout
Yes you can kill yourself because you are depressed.
No, you may not smoke cigarettes.
Progressive utopia.
No, you may not smoke cigarettes.
Progressive utopia.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:15 am to Earnest_P
It’s funny, isn’t it?
This entire website fancies itself a bunch of good old boys but start talking about how wonderful divorce is or putting people down like animals or how trashy smoking is and it starts sounding like it’s full of female psychology profs at some New Jersey university.
This entire website fancies itself a bunch of good old boys but start talking about how wonderful divorce is or putting people down like animals or how trashy smoking is and it starts sounding like it’s full of female psychology profs at some New Jersey university.
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