re: Can we talk UFOs?

From MENSA (home of the loonies to normal (I mean common) people...)

Interview with Steve Justice, who retired as Director of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin’s famed Skunk Works program


https://www.us.mensa.org/read/bulletin/features/to-the-stars-academy-unafraid-to-investigate-the-unexplained/

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To The Stars Academy: Unafraid to Investigate the Unexplained
Reimagining what's possible with an organization at the outer edge of science
MATT TILLER |
February 8, 2019

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For decades, many people around the world have reported seeing unexplained aerial phenomena. This includes anything from a luminous orb to a flying disc, and any serious inquiry of the matter could get you ostracized from intellectual circles. But there are serious people in serious organizations willing to investigate the unexplainable rather than explaining what remains largely uninvestigated. My curiosity about this topic led me to talk with one such individual, and after our conversation, well, I don’t think we should be laughing.

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Science, Aerospace, Entertainment, Analysis

There exists a worldwide occurrence that defies our understanding and appears as seemingly magically as it disappears. Many people have heard the terminology: unidentified aerial phenomenon, advanced aviation vehicles, flying saucers, etc. All of these phrases describe something that cannot accurately be explained but is real nonetheless. From 2007 to 2012, the Pentagon operated the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for gathering quantifiable information about these exotic flying machines to assess the possibility of a threat. AATIP collected and analyzed electro-optical data, radar returns, signature reduction, thrust vectoring, and many other types of data. All of this information yields credence to the idea that “We may not be alone,” as Luis Elizondo, former director of AATIP, stated during a December 2017 interview with CNN. Logically, many questions arise: Who are flying these objects? Where do they come from? Why are they here? Instead of chasing endless guesses, AATIP sought to answer one question: Are they a threat? In short, no, they do not appear to be a threat.

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TTSA has undertaken and the credible talent DeLonge assembled to assist in TTSA’s efforts, including the aforementioned Elizondo; Steve Justice, who retired as Director of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin’s famed Skunk Works program; Hal Puthoff, former National Security Agency researcher and advisor to NASA; and Jim Semivan, who spent 25 years in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations. In July 2018, the science division launched the ADAM project (Acquisition & Data Analysis of Materials), which endeavors to analyze materials reportedly from advanced aircraft of unknown origin, similar to the ones observed by AATIP. The TTSA blog states the exotic materials, coming from “private citizens, foreign aerospace investigatory committees, aerospace operators, and government organizations” will be analyzed for technological innovation. Naturally, I had questions. So I contacted To The Stars Academy and was given an interview with Steve Justice, the Chief Operations Officer and Aerospace Division Director for TTSA.

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Most of Society Is Afraid to Ask

Steve Justice headshot Steve Justice, Chief Operations Officer and Aerospace Division Director at To The Stars Academy. To The Stars Academy Justice began his career in the aerospace defense industry and in 1984 joined Lockheed’s Skunk Works, an innovation and development arm of the company credited with developing such famed aircraft as the U-2, SR-71 Blackbird, F-117 Nighthawk, F-22 Raptor, and F-35 Lightning. Justice himself held roles on programs for the F-117 and F-22. Along with being credited with numerous patents, he has also received the company’s NOVA Award (its highest recognition for achievement). Justice joined To The Stars Academy in September 2017. “To The Stars is a group of people who came together to answer the questions that most of society is afraid to ask,” Justice told me. “There’s this overwhelming body of evidence that [indicates] something strange is going on.” While it seemed to me that evidence of this profound nature would be met with great interest by the public, Justice said that the stigma of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) hinders widespread investigation. In discussing UAP with officials from the government and the private sector, he can usually put their response into one of three categories: positive (they remain silent as you speak and promptly change the subject), typical (boisterous laughter, eye rolls, and sarcasm), and negative (outright attack).

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And beyond figuring out what the materials are and what they can do, TTSA’s ultimate goal is to leverage new technology for the betterment of mankind. “We have no idea how this technology, this expanded physics, could change our lives,” Justice said. “You know, around 2000 you didn’t know you needed a smartphone, and now you can’t live without it. Somebody had the vision to create something you didn’t know you needed.”

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The future ahead of us is incredible,” Justice said. “The impossible is just something you haven’t seen yet, and there is a lot of impossible out in front of us. So, watch not only us, but look elsewhere and watch the impossible become possible.”

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