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re: Caitlyn Jenner, Courage Award Recipient, Delivers Moving Speech At ESPYs

Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:13 am to
Just because the timing is questionable doesn't make it a made up situation


If he/she really took hormones back in the 90's, what the frick was that for?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:14 am to
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If he/she really took hormones back in the 90's, what the frick was that for?


A convenient unprovable lie.

And no need for the he/she. He is a he, no matter how much make up and pretty dresses he puts on.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:15 am
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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I have never stated any view on if he has a mental problem. Just because someone is gay I don't put them in category as pedophile or serial killer.


I generally lump people with ADD and serial rapists in the same boat personally.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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You acting like you know he has some deep struggles is hilarious.




Instead of just assuming gay makes people kill themselves how about just give a little bit of credence to the idea that people treat them like freakshows which can lead to suicide. It's not just a gay gene that makes the rate of tranny suicides high.Lack of acceptance is real. sorry

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He fricks other people. Stop using a word you don't know the meaning of.


You do know people can change sexuality right? People can become asexual to where sex means nothing to them and it doesn't cross their minds
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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Just because someone is gay I don't put them in category as pedophile or serial killer.



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Everytime it happens we yell that they are mentally ill and that they are freaks?


What the hell are you babbeling about?

I'm assuming you're very confused in general in life.


You said we dont make fun of athletes who go on the bachelor or reality TV>

Yes we do.

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I must have missed the threads making fun of this years bachelor to the extreme of telling them their life is everything that is wrong with the country


Again, what?

I dont think anyone said Jenner is everything that is wrong with America, however, i will point out that shows like the bachelor and other reality TV shows are a huge problem in america.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:15 am to
It's unprovable both ways I guess


I just don't see this as all for publicity

Sure, the publicity is a factor and has influenced the situation, but it's not like it was an entire script written by a network
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:16 am to
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Instead of just assuming gay makes people kill themselves how about just give a little bit of credence to the idea that people treat them like freakshows which can lead to suicide. It's not just a gay gene that makes the rate of tranny suicides high.Lack of acceptance is real. sorry


Why did you suddenly switch to gay people and committing suicide?

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It's not just a gay gene that makes the rate of tranny suicides high.Lack of acceptance is real. sorry


Correct. Their lack of acceptance of them self. Not society.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:17 am to
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Sure, the publicity is a factor and has influenced the situation, but it's not like it was an entire script written by a network


we all know the Kardashians never plan out anything in their lives for publicity....






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Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:17 am to
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I dont think anyone said Jenner is everything that is wrong with America, however, i will point out that shows like the bachelor and other reality TV shows are a huge problem in america.


Plenty have though. Just last night people were in a thread claiming the reason Jenner was on tv last night was a trans agenda to make it acceptable for 3 year olds to have trans surgery. I'm not kidding you. I can't make it up and it was multiple people that were arguing about that agenda. Not acceptance of one letting them live their life..but gays want acceptance to have surgery on kids. That's ridiculous to think a whole community thinks like that.

And I agree with reality tv fwiw
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:18 am to
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Why did you suddenly switch to gay people and committing suicide?


They are same community. A tranny gene doesn't make people kill themselves either. And I was responding to someone saying no way Jenner has a hard day when people ridicule her
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:19 am to
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Instead of just assuming gay makes people kill themselves


The frick?

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It's not just a gay gene that makes the rate of tranny suicides high


Maybe it has more to do with realizing fricking up their bodies had nothing to do with why they were unhappy... crazy idea.

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Lack of acceptance is real. sorry


He's pretty fricking accepted.

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You do know people can change sexuality right?


He's still fricking girls. Not asexual. Try again (actually don't though)
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:19 am to
So much ignorance in this thread.

Probably all of the people that "experimented" in college and hate themselves for it now
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:19 am to
I'm not disputing any of that


There's no doubt their history is a major reason for the suspicion



I don't know anything 100% one way or another. I just don't know how anyone else does, yet they state it as fact
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:20 am to
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claiming the reason Jenner was on tv last night was a trans agenda to make it acceptable for 3 year olds to have trans surgery.


To be fair there is a vocal minority in this country arguing for this and using Jenner as a base.

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.but gays want acceptance to have surgery on kids.


I think you are extremely confused about gay people and transgenders. THey arent the same thing and there are plenty of straight people who argue for transgender rights. ANd the last few article in the media about parents wanting their kids to be transgendered were straight parents.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:20 am to
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I don't know anything 100% one way or another. I just don't know how anyone else does, yet they state it as fact



I'm not saying it's 100% fact. But if you put a gun to my head and make me choose whether Bruce remains as Caitlyn the rest of his life or goes back to being Bruce, I know which one I'm picking based off these people's track records.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:21 am to
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Correct. Their lack of acceptance of them self. Not society.


So someone whose parents shun them, loses friends, get's made fun of when goes down street if he/she doesn't look butch or feminine enough, wouldn't have more tendency to kill themselves? Bullying can't lead to suicides? Come on man. To say its just they can't accept themselves is ludicrous.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:21 am to
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people can change sexuality right? People can become asexual to where sex means nothing to them and it doesn't cross their minds


nothing is permanent. We are all amorphous blobs that can become whatever we want at will.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:22 am to
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They are same community


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That's ridiculous to think a whole community thinks like that.


If i was you I'd calm down on the over generalization and community grouping while bashing people for the exact same thing.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:22 am to
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 2:01 am
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:23 am to
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I think you are extremely confused about gay people and transgenders. THey arent the same thing and there are plenty of straight people who argue for transgender rights. ANd the last few article in the media about parents wanting their kids to be transgendered were straight parents.


No I know the difference. But the lgbtq community tends to get labeled under same umbrella alot. But to make it easier I will stick to trans only
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