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re: Business question

Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:16 am to
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9364 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:16 am to
Contract work should be 2x to 3x the base hourly or salary from my experience.
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
795 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:23 am to
Bro. You don't just start a business like this. It takes serious planning. Sure you can just start making money but without a good foundation you will fail in less than 5 years. The way it sounds right now man less than 6 months before you quit and take a job.
I suggest you take the job, then get educated on business. Take some courses online and at least with the SCORE organization. Business is not just about "I can make $xx.xx because I know how to do "whatever". There are people who make $40 an hour and then others who make $4000 for consulting. It all depends. Who is your target? Are you worth what you ask? How are you going to reach other clients?
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:27 am to
Beep. Boop bop beep [calculating]
Your answer is -e
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
954 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:33 am to
First off most of the lowest paid employees in any business are paid hourly. Not that you can’t make a lot hourly, but avoid it if possible.

People making commissions of paid on a project or other metric can justify making far more using less time. If you have to work hourly double what you have in mind, but avoid if at all possible.

Your goal is something more like, I can generate $800k/yr in value for this guy and my cut will be $120k which is roughly equivalent to $80k salary with benefits. It doesn’t matter if it only
Takes me 6 hours per week and I have 5 other clients because this about money not time.

If you’re just billing hours at a small markup, go get a damn job you’re not a business anyway, just a job with more downside.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88480 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:34 am to
quote:

First off most of the lowest paid employees in any business are paid hourly.


not where I work, baw
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2712 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:36 am to
What’s your time worth

If you are making more money not helping than you are helping you can’t do it

It’s not a personal slight. It’s business.

Your goal is to make more money. So is theirs.

Symbiotic relationships are what makes the world go round. Not screwing each other over or pulling a fast one.

I would assume you don’t bring enough to the table to command 80k. Maybe you bring enough to command whatever that works out to hourly if it frees you up to do other things.

Just talk to them. Find what works for both of you
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
954 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:41 am to
There are plenty of people paid high hourly rates. But it’s relative, you’re still capped on upside by number of hours you can fly and he would be by the number of hours he can bill. The CEO wouldn’t take that pay plan and the lowest guys on the totem pole are hourly guys.

Ask any lawyer about billing hours even if their rate is $600/hr, it’s a job not a business.

My explanation is simple don’t start a business to make $80k/yr that’s not a business it’s just a job that’s way harder than a normal job.

Go get a pilots license and a 777 type rating if you want to work hourly and make bank.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88480 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:51 am to
quote:

you’re still capped on upside by number of hours you can fly


the amount you can physically fly but certain duty rigs and premium flying pay generates some pretty big numbers

quote:

The CEO wouldn’t take that pay plan


our guy(who is stepping down,) doesn't take a salary, just gives himself stock but there's maybe a handful, if that, of the upper level VPs that make more than pilots in my pay group, and furthermore, I doubt there are very many professions out there that can make similar money in as few days per month and with zero company related headaches in between trips, not really thumping my chest, I've been fortunate to have had a pretty good run, that's coming to an end here shortly
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42446 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:45 am to
quote:

$60 per assuming minimal overhead.




That is the minimum, I'd say. Provided the particular market warrants it.

If you want it to equate 80K per year you need to consider your overhead. an 80K wage per year is basically 40/hr. so if you total expenses for the business per year equate to about 40K per year you are making about 80K before taxes.

Liability insurance, unemployment insurance, health insurance costs and 401K matching that otherwise would be carried by your employer, business licenses, accountant (assuming you use one), all your other fees, etc. Those are the things you need to account for.

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