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re: Burger Kings new ad is tasty
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:25 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:25 pm to Diseasefreeforall
this is just posturing, BK is not about to only source their beef from farmers that feed their cows lemongrass. Honestly, they use so much beef that it would be close to impossible to regulate something like this
*disclaimer, I know nothing about beef
*disclaimer, I know nothing about beef
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:25 pm to Diseasefreeforall
I've heard cows like grass. It's a little exotic, but maybe worth a try.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:27 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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I've heard cows like grass. It's a little exotic, but maybe worth a try
The buffaloes had it all figured out, but we killed damn near all of them.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:39 pm to LegendInMyMind
Cattle will readily consume grain while on pasture. It's why self-feeders have to have the gates closed to about an inch. It's why we have to limit what we put out if hand-feeding. There is no force-feeding involved.
There are microbes in the rumen that are primarily starch digesters and microbes that are primarily fiber digesters. They are all present, its just a matter of which proliferate more based on diet. We are just managing pH. Cattle are perfectly able to consume grain based diets if feeding management is sound.
If it wasn't for feedlots we wouldn't have the supply of beef that we do. There is no other way to produce the amount needed to meet demand in the US without it.
There are microbes in the rumen that are primarily starch digesters and microbes that are primarily fiber digesters. They are all present, its just a matter of which proliferate more based on diet. We are just managing pH. Cattle are perfectly able to consume grain based diets if feeding management is sound.
If it wasn't for feedlots we wouldn't have the supply of beef that we do. There is no other way to produce the amount needed to meet demand in the US without it.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:48 pm to AgGator
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There is no force-feeding involved.
So, it is natural for a cow to reach slaughter size at around 18 months?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:50 pm to AgGator
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it wasn't for feedlots we wouldn't have the supply of beef that we do. There is no other way to produce the amount needed to meet demand in the US without
I agree with that completely. And I am a bit of a hypocrite in that I buy beef, and prefer it be as cheap as possible. I also don't ignore the realities of our industrialized farm system.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:51 pm to LegendInMyMind
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So, it is natural for a cow to reach slaughter size at around 18 months?
You haven't spent much time around a cattle farm, have you?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:52 pm to fallguy_1978
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They are putting the beyond meat stuff in their regular burgers now?
Not sure exactly what it means, but that makes sense.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:55 pm to bad93ex
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You haven't spent much time around a cattle farm, have you?
Have you spent much time in a feed lot with thousands of head of cattle?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:57 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:probably cheap soy and corn fillers.
They are putting the beyond meat stuff in their regular burgers now?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:57 pm to Diseasefreeforall
It ain't no laughin' matter when I fart and splatter.
#Never trust a fart.
#Never trust a fart.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:57 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I also don't ignore the realities
Just from what I have read in this thread, you wouldn't know a reality if one bit you in the arse.
Exploding cow tummies. What a maroon.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:58 pm to bad93ex
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You haven't spent much time around a cattle farm, have you?
What do you believe the average age of the cow that produced the ground beef you buy at a grocery store to be?
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:59 pm to Priapus
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Just from what I have read in this thread, you wouldn't know a reality if one bit you in the arse.
Exploding cow tummies. What a maroon.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 3:04 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Posted on 7/14/20 at 3:06 pm to northshorebamaman
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probably cheap soy and corn fillers.
Ah. I'm not much of a fast food person anyway. I'll grab something maybe once per month when I'm short on time or on the road.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 3:06 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Is that the Walmart yodel kid? Does he not age?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 3:08 pm to LegendInMyMind
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You haven't spent much time around a cattle farm, have you?
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What do you believe the average age of the cow that produced the ground beef you buy at a grocery store to be?
frick it. I will help you.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/6624314
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 3:11 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:I won't judge you.
Ah. I'm not much of a fast food person anyway. I'll grab something maybe once per month when I'm short on time or on the road.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 3:11 pm to LegendInMyMind
We can absolutely feed an animal to slaughter weight by 18-24 months without any antibiotics. We do it regularly, there are many programs that specifically source that product. Look at Walmarts prime pursuits program.
What age should an animal reach slaughter at? On grass only? What kind of grass? Different grasses produce different rates of gain, which is correct? What I'm getting at is that natural vs unnatural is purely subjective. We can finish cattle perfectly fine on grain based diets without any additives, if this isn't natural then how much grain is allowed? It all becomes arbitrary. Feeding grain to cattle is fine, not feeding it is fine, both are acceptable since the ruminant animal can make use of energy from both cellulose and starch, it's why they are so cool.
Edit to add that age of animals going into ground beef is another deal. Alot of cow meat there vs steer/heifer.
What age should an animal reach slaughter at? On grass only? What kind of grass? Different grasses produce different rates of gain, which is correct? What I'm getting at is that natural vs unnatural is purely subjective. We can finish cattle perfectly fine on grain based diets without any additives, if this isn't natural then how much grain is allowed? It all becomes arbitrary. Feeding grain to cattle is fine, not feeding it is fine, both are acceptable since the ruminant animal can make use of energy from both cellulose and starch, it's why they are so cool.
Edit to add that age of animals going into ground beef is another deal. Alot of cow meat there vs steer/heifer.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 3:14 pm
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