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re: BREC Golf system losing over $1 million a year
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:23 pm to Croacka
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:23 pm to Croacka
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this makes a lot of sense
And it could be implemented quickly, instantly increasing revenues.
When I lived in San Diego they sold a county golf card. Show a drivers license and a current utility bill from inside the county and pay $15 for the card. Gets you a discounted rate at all public golf courses in the county including Torrey pines!
I could walk Torrey at twilight for $18.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:33 pm to Jarlaxle
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this makes a lot of sense
My cities municipal course charges more for non-residents also. I thought this was common for most municipal courses.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:38 pm to cuyahoga tiger
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I thought this was common for most municipal courses.
i think it is pretty common, i just know that BREC doesn't do it
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:04 pm to Jarlaxle
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I could walk Torrey at twilight for $18.
Wow!
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:00 pm to EyeOfTheTiger311
The Tiger effect is long gone. That's what kept the golf game going for years. Look at courses from 1997-2006, big boom, since then it has died down.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:06 pm to Brinner
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I think they should stop cutting the rough at all.
You HAVE to mow rough eventually.
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I would pave the entire city park and install artificial grass. Save money on maintenance and water.
Save money on maintenance and water and spend it on millions of dollars of artificial turf that will lead to less play and wear out in a few years.
There would be a lot more maintenance costs than you would think on artificial turf. It'd be nearly impossible to play in the summer without having it wet down to keep it cool. Synthetic turf gets REALLY hot.
I'm not a BR citizen. Only have been once. I know some about BREC from posting in the weekly golf thread, but this is not strictly a BR problem. Look at this article: LINK
"According to the National Golf Foundation, only 14 new courses (in 18-hole equivalents) were built in 2014 in the United States and another 157.5 closed their doors, for a net loss of 143.5 courses."
The game of golf is still contracting. The golf boom is hurting the industry now. It grew too fast. Hopefully, it will soon return to an equilibrium for supply and demand.
That's not to say there aren't solutions that could work for BREC, or that BREC has mishandled some things, but the whole industry is still struggling to find the middle ground of supply and demand.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:16 pm to bamafan425
I tried to book a tourney at SM not long ago and they said they were avoiding weekend tournaments...
SM isnt that nice to begin with. its ok. Greens have gotten better, but for same price bluffs or carter plantation win every time
SM isnt that nice to begin with. its ok. Greens have gotten better, but for same price bluffs or carter plantation win every time
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:23 pm to jimjackandjose
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i tried to book a tourney at SM not long ago and they said they were avoiding weekend tournaments...
SM isnt that nice to begin with. its ok. Greens have gotten better, but for same price bluffs or carter plantation win every time
There's a lot of well duh in this statement dude.
They lose money by booking weekend tournaments and piss off the regulars.
Bluffs and Carter are bleeding I'm sure. When Penn is gone I'm worried those places will shutter too.
Santa Maria is a better layout than Carter but being a heavily played public course so close to BR it's always gonna get beat up.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:32 pm to WildcatMike
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Courses lose money everywhere.
Why the hell do they keep building them and who is paying for all of that
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:33 pm to CP3LSU25
Because people like golf.
Obviously the tax payers
Obviously the tax payers
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:34 pm to CP3LSU25
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Why the hell do they keep building them and who is paying for all of that
buy cheap property
build golf course
sell expensive lots
give away or sell the golf course once you've milked the cash cow
eta: i don't get how people don't understand how simple this is
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 2/25/14 at 2:51 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Ouch
Not meant that way. All government workers are employees....
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:06 pm to Croacka
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buy cheap property
build golf course
sell expensive lots
give away or sell the golf course once you've milked the cash cow
The land that Beaver Creek is built on was donated to BREC and the owner kept the rights to the surrounding land to build the housing development.
Win,win for him.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:09 pm to Jarlaxle
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The land that Beaver Creek is built on was donated to BREC and the owner kept the rights to the surrounding land to build the housing development.
Win,win for him.
I wonder if he's actually made money on it. The place can't be close to 25% built out.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:16 pm to Camp Randall
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I wonder if he's actually made money on it. The place can't be close to 25% built out.
It has changed hands a couple of times.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:18 pm to Jarlaxle
SGREC - "St. George Recreation" is planning 3 new courses, a ski lodge, a waterski park and a mountain hiking trail.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:19 pm to CP3LSU25
They don't keep building them, more courses get shut down every year.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:20 pm to CP3LSU25
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Why the hell do they keep building them and who is paying for all of that
14 courses were built in 2013, compared to 157.5 that closed.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:59 pm to bamafan425
Lower greens fees!
Everytime you see no one playing a hole, you are losing money. Make it so cheap everyone will come out and play. Its just like a Hot Sale at a store.
You can't tax or increase fees into a profit.
Everytime you see no one playing a hole, you are losing money. Make it so cheap everyone will come out and play. Its just like a Hot Sale at a store.
You can't tax or increase fees into a profit.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:33 pm to Camp Randall
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I wonder if he's actually made money on it. The place can't be close to 25% built out.
Not sure how much has been built versus what is left, but I know they are about to bust open a new filing in the next year or so. They seem to be building it out at a decent pace and not overbuilding.
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