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re: At what point in history did nations in Europe (particularly Britain)

Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:49 pm to
September 1783
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:51 pm to
Love the downvotes of you ignorant dolts.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:10 pm to
I am just wondering what part of Anglo-Saxon you think is not european?
Posted by tigahbruh
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:12 pm to
By the 1830s, industrial powers in Europe were dependent on American cotton in the South and began to view the growth of industry in the North as significant. As an economic power, the US was a player from day one, but its economic influence grew exponentially greater as the decades turned.

The US Civil War was a major event from the perspective of Britain, France, Netherlands, and others for economic reason but its military innovations influenced Western warfare.

The Spanish American War showed that the US was ready to be a geopolitical military player, but WW1 established the US as a top tier military power. WW2 est the USA as global top dog.

To answer the question: Economically? No later than the 1830s. Militarily? World War I.

Posted by Dude88
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:15 pm to
1783 when the British surrendered.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:27 pm to
Actually Bolshevik Revolution changed Ukraine from bread basket of Europe to the U.S. Great Plains. Before then it was the industrial standards that set the stage for the U.S. to become the world industrial power. No other country had things like API, ASME, ASTM, UL, etc... until the late 20th Century. Every company in every nation had its own standards. USSR was a little different. It had similar standards to the U.S. but instead of being based on QA/QC they were based on forcing more consumption of raw materials so that there would be any market at all for shitty Commie products.
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:43 pm to
The real answer is the Quasi-War with France and the Barbary Pirate War a year later, is what truly cemented the idea of American independence and staying power in the global context; we had gained independence and held together for a decade or two, sorted out constitutional arrangements, and consolidated central power a bit; the French and British had both experienced American power as a tough nut to crack in the Western Hemisphere, then we showed Americans would not back down in the face of a backwater Old World threat, and could project power as well.

Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 10:40 pm to
Probably, after the civil war, a lot of serious equipment like ironclads, submarines that worked, Gatling guns, improved rifles and pistols etc cape out of Civil War snd well as new strategies and techniques, that I know they all studied in their respective war colleges
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:34 pm to
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England, Britain, is not European.

The Irish, Scots, Welsh are, however.

This is historic, and has nothing to do with brexit.


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Love the downvotes of you ignorant dolts.


Alternately to just commenting on the downvotes and how ignorant everyone is, you could try to substantiate what you’re claiming.

Anthropologically, yes the Celtic regions of the British Isles do have genetic origins in Northern Europe by way of Roman Germania—but those origins are actually more distant than the Anglo-Saxon/Viking/Norse/Danish hodge podge of “English” genetic ancestry.

Unless I’m missing something, professor.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:56 am to
They're different than the rest of Europeans. Truly an island. They're more like US Americans.
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:25 am to
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They're different than the rest of Europeans. Truly an island. They're more like US Americans.


I wish you’d just stated earlier that you had no idea what you’re talking about when you were applauding downvotes. I wouldn’t have wasted my time with the Celtic origins stuff.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:38 am to
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I wish you’d just stated earlier that you had no idea what you’re talking about when you were applauding downvotes.

Why? I'm right.


Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
Member since Jul 2007
3809 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:41 pm to
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Why? I'm right.


You’re not right that the Celtic people are more European than the English. It’s the opposite. The Celts fled every time European conquests happened into the British isles and those invasions led to the genetic lineage of those in England.

Again, I’m going to stop wasting my time.
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