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re: Arkansas anti-gay pastor arrested/indicted for 70 counts of child porn.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:23 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:23 pm to MrLarson
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The Greeks openly fricked little boys.
The Romans too
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But your defense is that in a society that is changing more and more to open sexuality will never veer down this road? That is rather confusing
It's more naïve.
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:25 pm to Darth_Vader
I've never known a child to be so capable and don't expect ever to know one.
Nice try, but the weirdos here are you and Cut. You see little to no difference between being gay and raping children, so you assume that since I have no problem with gays and trannies, I must be in favor of heinous acts against children. You have to assume these things in order to make yourself seem less insane.
Nice try, but the weirdos here are you and Cut. You see little to no difference between being gay and raping children, so you assume that since I have no problem with gays and trannies, I must be in favor of heinous acts against children. You have to assume these things in order to make yourself seem less insane.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:27 pm to The First Cut
quote:Nice try, but it's you, not me. Just because you see little to no difference between being gay and raping children doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees with you.
You are the one making it the same, how can you not see this? You are really turning this into a very immature playground argument. No one, expect for you, said it was the same. Do you have anything intelligent to say or are you going to just repeat your mantra?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:28 pm to ballscaster
So the answer to my question is no, no you don't have anything intelligent to say and can only repeat your mantra.
Don't be surprised when the SJWs pick up the mantle for pedophiles. They wouldn't choose a life like that, therefore they MUST be born that way.
Don't be surprised when the SJWs pick up the mantle for pedophiles. They wouldn't choose a life like that, therefore they MUST be born that way.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:28 pm to MrLarson
Nice try, but nothing is going to justify the insane idea that those of us who aren't homophobic and transphobic want to allow adults to rape children. If you think that, you're crazy, plain and simple.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:30 pm to The First Cut
quote:Oh so it's important to answer questions now?
So the answer to my question
You cowered from the 1 to 10 question because your honest answer would be damning.
Sorry, but you can't accuse people of wanting children to be raped and then call somebody else childish. That's just dumb.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:32 pm to ballscaster
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I've never known a child to be so capable and don't expect ever to know one.
Then you agree with me that the notion of allowing a child to be "trangender" is absurd and hurtful.
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Nice try, but the weirdos here are you and Cut. You see little to no difference between being gay and raping children
You keep saying this but neither I nor Cut have drawn any lines between homosexuality and raping children. As far as I know there has never been any concrete scientific proof linking homosexuality and a proclivity to raping children. So why do you keep repeating this lie of yours that we are trying to connect homosexuality and child rape?
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since I have no problem with gays and trannies, I must be in favor of heinous acts against children
Well, if someone believes a child is mature enough to make such mature decisions as their gender, even to the point the child can alter their body, then they by extension have to believe that child is also mature enough to decide to consent to sexual behavior. It is their body after all, right? Does this have anything to do with homosexuality? No. It has everything to do with absurd liberal/progressive "logic".
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:32 pm to The First Cut
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Don't be surprised when the SJWs pick up the mantle for pedophiles.
There are currently 2 sets of folks in the whole world that seem to have done that...
A)Current child molesters who want their desires to be legitimized.
B)Radical religious fanatics who want their religious actions in regards to being able to marry children to be able to continue.
Regardless of your attempt to slippery slope your way into making this an area where liberals are out and about trying to take up the banner for NAMBLA, that just isn't the case.
Now...when the day comes that they do, feel free to run back here and point it out. Until then, this is typical fear-mongering in an attempt to try and link the consenting actions of adults you dont like with the non-consenting actions that nearly every person alive finds repugnant.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:36 pm to Darth_Vader
You're getting desperate.
You think that people who aren't homophobic and transphobic want to justify child rape. That's how low you are.
You think that people who aren't homophobic and transphobic want to justify child rape. That's how low you are.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:38 pm to ballscaster
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transphobic
Pedophobic will be the new word.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:46 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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There are currently 2 sets of folks in the whole world that seem to have done that... A)Current child molesters who want their desires to be legitimized. B)Radical religious fanatics who want their religious actions in regards to being able to marry children to be able to continue. Regardless of your attempt to slippery slope your way into making this an area where liberals are out and about trying to take up the banner for NAMBLA, that just isn't the case. Now...when the day comes that they do, feel free to run back here and point it out. Until then, this is typical fear-mongering in an attempt to try and link the consenting actions of adults you dont like with the non-consenting actions that nearly every person alive finds repugnant.
There is one word in your post that is most important, namely "consent". And the reason this word is important is because it lays at the heart of the issue of kids being transgender.
If, as many liberals believe, kids can consent to having their body transformed from their biological gender to the one they "identify" with, this means this child is believed capable of giving consent for this change to happen. In other words, they believe the child is able to give consent to whatever they want to do with their own body. And if they have the ability and maturity to make these types of decisions, sexual matters would fall within this framework.
For me, I do not think a child has the maturity to be able to give consent to changing their own gender, even if they think they want to. Kids think they want a lot of things. But what they lack is the ability to understand what the ramifications of getting what they want can mean. AS I said in the other thread, there's a reason kids cannot do things like enter into legal contracts, drive a car, join the and military. And along with those things, kids cannot maturely decide to either change their gender or engage in sexual behavior. However, current liberal dogma is trying to push for allowing kids to make that decision about their gender. The consequence of allowing this though is if we say a child is old enough to make this decision about their body, then the door is open to having to allow them to make other decisions about their body as well. In short, it opens a Pandora's Box that is best left closed.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:52 pm to Darth_Vader
All of this. Balls is just trying to change the direction of the discussion because what you just wrote is 100% common sense.
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I do not think a child has the maturity to be able to give consent to changing their own gender, even if they think they want to. Kids think they want a lot of things. But what they lack is the ability to understand what the ramifications of getting what they want can mean. AS I said in the other thread, there's a reason kids cannot do things like enter into legal contracts, drive a car, join the and military. And along with those things, kids cannot maturely decide to either change their gender or engage in sexual behavior. However, current liberal dogma is trying to push for allowing kids to make that decision about their gender. The consequence of allowing this though is if we say a child is old enough to make this decision about their body, then the door is open to having to allow them to make other decisions about their body as well. In short, it opens a Pandora's Box that is best left closed.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:52 pm to The First Cut
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First Cut
Dude you just got owned
Made only more entertaining by your desperate attempts to dig yourself out of the trap ball caster set for you.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:57 pm to Darth_Vader
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If, as many liberals believe, kids can consent to having their body transformed from their biological gender to the one they "identify" with, this means this child is believed capable of giving consent for this change to happen. In other words, they believe the child is able to give consent to whatever they want to do with their own body. And if they have the ability and maturity to make these types of decisions, sexual matters would fall within this framework.
And yet...you didn't link any liberals that are doing that.* Instead, you used the notion of child rape as a means by which you could poke at the left.
All of that other stuff you've been selling in this thread is just run of the mill non sequiturs. Whether or not libs support a child's right to chose in one area does not at all suggest that they will or must support it in another or all others, regardless of how much you may think they must. And until they do, suggesting "they will" at some point in an attempt to scare people into not being ok with a current action is disingenuous at best.
* By that I mean you failed to link any liberal groups defending pedophiles or arguing in favor of children being able to consent in those cases.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:06 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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And yet...you didn't link any liberals that are doing that.* Instead, you used the notion of child rape as a means by which you could poke at the left. All of that other stuff you've been selling in this thread is just run of the mill non sequiturs. Whether or not libs support a child's right to chose in one area does not at all suggest that they will or must support it in another or all others, regardless of how much you may think they must. And until they do, suggesting "they will" at some point in an attempt to scare people into not being ok with a current action is disingenuous at best. * By that I mean you failed to link any liberal groups defending pedophiles or arguing in favor of children being able to consent in those cases
I've never said that any liberal groups are currently making this argument. In fact, they'd be shut down with quickness if they were. However, what I have pointed out is that their logic regarding children and transgenderism will lead to this very argument being made in the future. As I said, allowing children to consent to changing their gender opens Pandora's Box in that it bestows upon children the ability to consent to very adult matters concerning their body. This is very wrong and very dangerous. And I find it amazing that you cannot see where this will lead. Already, there are at least some odd voices on the left beginning to bring up the notion of normalizing pedophilia. And don't think for one moment they will not pounce on the issue of "consent" and a child's ability to give it if that will further their cause.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:10 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:You persist with this unsupported speculation. To do this, one or both of the following things must be true:
However, what I have pointed out is that their logic regarding children and transgenderism will lead to this very argument being made in the future.
1) you think that people who are not homophobic or transphobic are fine with child rape
2) you see homosexuality, transgenderism, and child rape as peas in a pod.
You sound as if both are true.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:34 pm to ballscaster
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) you think that people who are not homophobic or transphobic are fine with child rape
I honestly don't know anyone who has a fear of either homosexuals or transgenders so I can't speak to their support or lack thereof of child rape.
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2) you see homosexuality, transgenderism, and child rape as peas in a pod.
When have I said anything of the sort?
BTW, did you ever answer my question from earlier regarding your opinion on a child's ability to consent to changing their gender? Do you think this is something a child can consent to?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:40 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:You also don't know the definitions of he two words, apparently.
I honestly don't know anyone who has a fear of either homosexuals or transgenders
quote:Answered right after you asked.
BTW, did you ever answer my question from earlier regarding your opinion on a child's ability to consent to changing their gender? Do you think this is something a child can consent to?
Child rape homosexuality/transgenderism has nothing to do with each other. To accuse those who are fine with the latter of being fine with the former is a clear look into the mind of a pervert who is ignorant and confused. I wish you the best. In the meantime, stay away from children.
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