Bc I have a medically fragile child who is put in additional danger bc of selfish retards like you. It’s ok to be a selfish stupid retard, but when your selfish stupidity affects other people, it’s not cool.

Not hard to understand.

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Posted by lostinbr

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Oct 2017

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Posted on 3/29/19 at 6:16 pm to nola000

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I addressed both of those in another post. I wasn't arguing about either of those points.

Uh, seems to me you were arguing against exactly that.. from your first post in this thread:

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How about you raise your kids the way you see fit and let others raise their kids the way they see fit? Is that so much of a problem for you? Why don't you leave other people the frick alone?

And from another post shortly after that one:

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That's not what I was arguing. I was arguing the general sentiment that it's the government's job to raise your children or protect them. That's not their job and that should never be their job.

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While it's sad to see shity parents make shity decisions and harm children, especially if those children grow up to be shity adults that society as a whole ends up having to deal with, ultimately that's the cost of freedom and liberty. I'm not going to support setting the precedent that it's okay for the government to dictate how we raise our children. I don't care what kind of rationalizations you try to make about it. That's not a slippery slope I want to slide down.

So let’s put this whole anti-vaxxer straw man aside for a moment and get to the point. A doctor believes a child may have meningitis and tells the parents they need to bring the child to a hospital for further testing. The parents refuse. Your stance is the government should not be able to force the parents’ hand in this matter, correct?

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Posted by LSUERDOC

Member since Jul 2013

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Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:36 am to nola000

Agreed.

A high fever in a child is a viral process the vast majority of the time. With that said, an unvaccinated child with a high fever is getting a septic workup and a night in the hospital if I see them in the ER.

But I don’t agree with the govt kicking in doors in this situation.

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Posted by Volvagia

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Member since Mar 2006

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Posted on 3/30/19 at 2:59 am to nola000

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Well since only us "crazy anti-vaxxers" are the ones that "aren't protected" why are you worried about it?

Because it isn’t just “y’all”

It’s every one who can’t take vaccines even if they wanted to, every single kid who aren’t old enough yet to start vaccine sequences, and adults who forgot which ones aren’t lifelong and hasn’t gotten boosters.

There are general public health considerations here. It’s not a choice that just affects yourself.

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Posted by Volvagia

Fort Worth

Member since Mar 2006

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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:24 am to nola000

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You're right. It was three zeros not five. I calculated incorrectly. The correct number is 0.00022%.

1) you are still off by an order of magnitude even by your parameters

2) the parameters are absurd anyway. Applying them to another disease:

“Ebola is no big deal, only 0.000000094166667% of Africans died of it during its biggest outbreak. It’s not that deadly. “

“In 1950 smallpox only killed 0.00006% of the world population....it’s not that deadly.”

3) BTW, dug deeper into those outbreak years and the count of those who ended up with some degree of paralysis ended up being more than a third.

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