re: Are Young Men Truly Lost?

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Find you a good prostitute and hook up with her every couple of weeks. If I was single that's what I'd do.


Wow. That’s depressing.

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I wouldn't really do that, I'd be out there slaying tail like Justin Timberlake. I was trying to make the guy feel better and give him an option.

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I saw a thread - maybe the comments on a Tik Tok video, can’t remember - of girls talking about how many guys choke, slap, degrade, call names (slut, whore), expect anal, be too aggressive when having sex. Maybe the women were all lying or whining, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what’s going on. Porn is absolutely degrading society, and it shouldn’t be excused by anyone.

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From my experience this is what girls want. I find it odd too.

1. Men not having able to support themselves and a family with a traditional career is troubling. The blue-collar worker doesn't have the same opportunities and earning potential of years past.
2. Yes, women are getting degrees more than men, but many of these degrees are useless, though I'm sure it's inflating their sense of worth. When I was dating, I did not care about a prospective partner's education. Needed to be smart, know the value of a dollar, willing to work, treat people well. A college education does not magically make that stuff appear.
3. For dudes, nice ain't enough. You better have something else to you. Take care of yourself. Have your own interests and hobbies. I remember being on a forum where this dude was talking about all the Chads getting attractive women. He claimed he could talk circles around them (i.e. intellectually superior), so why aren't they into him? He was big with glasses with a beard and hair that came down to his chest. Can't be look like a D&D DM and pull 7+'s. Either improve yourself or aim lower.
4. Lose the pressure. Have your own stuff together and know you'll be all right one way or the other. My dating life got so much better once I quit worrying about whether or not a woman would like me. If she doesn't, cool; I won't waste her time, and, more importantly, she won't waste mine.
5. Women still like confidence and still like a man that can get stuff done and make decisions. It helps to be able to do basic car maintenance, fix stuff around the house, and plan where you're going to go for a date.

Times have changed, for sure, but you can either get busy living or get busy dying.

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So are you blaming inflation? Economy being screwed by politicians, not society.

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No. Just noting that the career landscape for men has changed a lot.

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You are factually wrong. There are probably just as many men getting degrees as women that don't pay out. Women are now working in the same workplaces as men that they wouldn't have back in the 50-70s. Doctors, lawyers, you name it. Stop pulling shite out of your arse.

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It's pretty much out there that fewer men are getting degrees compared to women. Women represent about 1/3 in STEM degrees and 1/2 of medical and law school. Lot of room for useless degrees in there. Men have their fair share, too.

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Do you think every man from the 20th century and prior was always a good man? Hell, it wasn't until the 70s that commercials finally stopped marketed stuff on "how to be a better housewife".

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I have no clue what you are trying to say here. I've heard a lot of guys gripe about not dating successfully, and, yet, they say they are such a nice guy. All I'm saying is it isn't enough.

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No one is forcing you to get married, so you are right in this aspect. There is nothing wrong with living your life single/doing your own thing for the rest of your life. I love my family and I can't imagine not growing it with them, but I know people who cannot stand the idea of taking care of anyone other than themselves. There's nothing wrong with either viewpoint.

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Again, what's your point? I'm merely stating don't put so much pressure on finding somebody. The pressure is counterproductive to that very goal. I'm not endorsing one path over another.

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How about people just like what they like instead of listening to what others tell them they have to like?

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Sure; people can do whatever they want. It's been my experience that women like confidence and decisiveness.

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There is more to life than everything you just mentioned. The echo chamber is strong here.

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My statement doesn't claim otherwise. Again, my experience has shown things like this are beneficial to finding and keeping a partner. While there is more to life than these things, those things I mentioned are common to living especially in a family unit.