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Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:01 am to Korkstand
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These are your examples of an authoritarian regime in action? One that did indeed peacefully hand over power to Trump, an act that Trump has absolutely refused to say he will do should he lose the election?
Ok. You’re not blind. You are simply a hack. I welcome the divorce. Any day now.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 4:01 am
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:04 am to Korkstand
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Jesus, how fricking strong is the "team" mentality with you?
My "team" mentality and i'm brainwashed? Have you been living under a rock? The entire protest and moment since the George Flyod killing has been led by BLM. BLM is painted everywhere. Maybe you are having your own little protest about police and government corruption...but everyone else is BLM and police killing black people.
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Again, I claim that "antifa" is a non-issue. That's YOUR boogeyman, not my cause to defend.
Yes i know you claim them to be a non issue. you claim all the violence is being covertly led corrupt police and the Fascist Trump. And Antifa are innocent choir boys. They aren't a Boogeyman they are a bad actor period.
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Did this logic really work in your head? Are you seriously trying to discredit my own lack of bias against party corruption because I pointed out someone ELSE'S actions against the opposition party? Yep, this country is well and truly fricked.
Your "lack" of bias? HAHAHA!!! Again i ask who is the opposition party? Antifa, BLM, Protesters, Rioters, Who? An opposition party has some form of organization and or platform, so who is Trumps gestapo rounding up?
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Its membership is ill-defined, you dolt! My entire fricking point is that the stage has been set to toss literally any leftist into that "anti-fascist terrorist" bucket.
Kind of how everyone on the right is a racist, fascist Nazi.
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So this is where you pretend that right-wing extremism doesn't exist? Violence is violence, extremism is extremism. For all the accusations of violence by "antifa", are you sure you want to do a count against far-right violence?
Why would i pretend that? Extremism exists on both sides. My question to you was what "group would you label as a far-right terrorist? No group has engaged in terror tactics since probably the 60s or 70s. But by all means lets see your list of "far-right violence" I'm sure it will be interesting.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:09 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:Call me blind if you like. Call me a communist, or a socialist, or whatever other "dirty word" you like. I'm just here to tell you to be careful not to get sucked into authoritarian fascism. You might think it's absurd or even funny, as if you couldn't possibly be led to support such a regime. Or, hell, maybe you'd welcome it. I've seen at least one politard straight up beg for authoritarianism if it means all those damned liberals would go away.
Errerrerrwere
We have federal police in American cities, and this is escalating. They are causing harm to peaceful people exercising their rights.
A significant chunk of the country practically begs for civil war constantly. They are so opposed to such ideas as universal healthcare and gay marriage that they are ready to kill motherfrickers over it.
The president is sowing doubt about the legitimacy of the coming election. Mail in ballots that we've used for a hundred years are all of a sudden not to be trusted. The USPS is being sabotaged. He has all but stated that he will contest the results should he lose. And you are so convinced that he absolutely cannot lose a fair election, that if he does lose maybe then we will see the right wing extremists burn some shite instead of their usual murders?
Many people proudly proclaim their nationalism as opposed to their patriotism. This is a relatively new thing.
A few mortal enemies have been identified to rally against.
There is an extreme obsession with crime and punishment.
I'm just asking, begging even, for you guys to pay attention to what you're supporting.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:21 am to Korkstand
You can keep using quotation marks to try and marginalize the scum you support; but I think after this thread you should probably log off and start a new account.
You’ve absolutely embarrassed yourself, family, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You’ve absolutely embarrassed yourself, family, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:21 am to Korkstand
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Call me blind if you like.
You're Blind! The side protesting is the one pushing for an authoritarian regime that silences decent, shuts down businesses that don't toe the line, wants to imprison people for thought crime. sorry pal, but the other side is far more fascistic then the current Gov.
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We have federal police in American cities,
We have federal police in almost every American city everyday. They have offices and everything.
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They are so opposed to such ideas as universal healthcare and gay marriage that they are ready to kill motherfrickers over it.
WHAT??? Who? When? I have not heard anyone even the looniest idiot say they wanted civil war over either of these issues.
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The president is sowing doubt about the legitimacy of the coming election.
Really? What has the left done for the last 4 years regarding the 2016 election? Why has Joe Biden hired 700 lawyers? Trump said the same thing in 2016 and Hillary chided him for it...and here she is still blaming everyone but herself for her loss 4 years later.
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Many people proudly proclaim their nationalism as opposed to their patriotism
They are not mutually exclusive. You can be both.
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A few mortal enemies have been identified to rally against.
like Nazis and racists?
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There is an extreme obsession with crime and punishment.
And all police are bad? And Russia and Putin and Ukraine have bought our election?
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I'm just asking, begging even, for you guys to pay attention to what you're supporting.
Dito!
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:26 am to Navtiger1
quote:I clearly said some, not all. Stop lying please.
you claim all the violence is being covertly led corrupt police
quote:Clearly did not say that. Stop lying please.
And Antifa are innocent choir boys.
quote:You think there is a single conservative at these protests? Besides however many are there planting false flags, I mean.
Again i ask who is the opposition party? Antifa, BLM, Protesters, Rioters, Who? An opposition party has some form of organization and or platform, so who is Trumps gestapo rounding up?
quote:Did not say that. Stop lying please.
Kind of how everyone on the right is a racist, fascist Nazi.
quote:I don't know, but you did. Why else would you ask for an example of a specific type of right wing violence and then "I'll wait".
Why would i pretend that?
quote:Ah, so your technicality is that since all of the various far-right, neo-nazi, white nationalist, etc groups haven't been lumped under a single catchy name like "antifa" that it doesn't count? And you still aren't tipped off that maybe, just maybe, you've been manipulated into thinking the far left is a greater threat to the country than the far right? Remember the authoritarian fascist tactic of defining an enemy. Hopefully it registers for you one day soon.
My question to you was what "group would you label as a far-right terrorist? No group has engaged in terror tactics since probably the 60s or 70s.
quote:Charlottesville, El Paso, the attempted mail bombings, Roof. You have google. Your claims that I support "antifa" violence is exactly equivalent to if I were to claim that you support any of the above assholes. That's crazy, and I would never accuse you of that. And it's crazy of you to accuse me of supporting any kind of violence or terrorism.
But by all means lets see your list of "far-right violence" I'm sure it will be interesting.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:30 am to Korkstand
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Korkstand
You are too far gone. There is nothing we can do for you now. We must go.
:steps over body:
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:30 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:I use quotation marks because thus far not a single person accused of a crime during these protests has been positively linked to "antifa" the organization. Do you know of any?
You can keep using quotation marks to try and marginalize the scum you support
And, yet again, how many times are you going to flat out lie about me supporting any kind of crime, or some alleged huge organization that doesn't seem to really have any confirmed members?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:32 am to Korkstand
LINK
Jesus. This happened what? 4 years ago?
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A college professor charged with four counts of felony assault with a deadly weapon has taken a deal resulting in three years of probation, court records reveal.
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Police wrote that they had found evidence last year during a search of Clanton’s home in San Leandro linking him to “Anti-Fascists and Anarchy political groups,” according to court papers.
Jesus. This happened what? 4 years ago?
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:35 am to TutHillTiger
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I don’t care for Trump because I actually have known him through a relative for decades.
Did you know Mary, or did you "know Mary" ?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:38 am to Navtiger1
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The side protesting is the one pushing for an authoritarian regime that silences decent, shuts down businesses that don't toe the line, wants to imprison people for thought crime. sorry pal, but the other side is far more fascistic then the current Gov.
quote:Ok, on the streets in riot gear battling citizens. That better?
We have federal police in almost every American city everyday. They have offices and everything.
quote:Well what the frick else are you worried those damned liberals are gonna do? We had 8 years of Obama, and despite all the fears of him driving us to communism, the claim is now that he accomplished absolutely nothing! People are obviously primed for war, so what are they afraid of, exactly?
WHAT??? Who? When? I have not heard anyone even the looniest idiot say they wanted civil war over either of these issues.
quote:Well it's just that one is a bit more fascist than the other.
They are not mutually exclusive. You can be both.
quote:Yeah, I know, and you can bet your arse I'll be the first one screaming as soon as the democrats start going authoritarian.
like Nazis and racists?
quote:I absolutely never said that. Stop lying please.
And all police are bad?
quote:I never even mentioned any of that.
And Russia and Putin and Ukraine have bought our election?
quote:I promise to watch both sides if you do. Deal?
Dito!
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:41 am to Korkstand
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I clearly said some, not all. Stop lying please.
All or some its stupid either way you slice it.
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Clearly did not say that. Stop lying please.
You constant defense of them says otherwise. Stop lying please.
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Besides however many are there planting false flags, I mean.
And there it is again! Your side is peaceful the other side is the one faking it.
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Did not say that. Stop lying please.
Never said you said that, i said that is the same argument from you side using those terms. Stop lying please.
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I don't know, but you did.
I did? Please show me where i said that? oh and "i'll wait"
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Ah, so your technicality is that since all of the various far-right, neo-nazi, white nationalist, etc groups haven't been lumped under a single catchy name like "antifa" that it doesn't count?
No i said show me a group to label as a terrorist organization! Your argument was Trump labeling them a domestic terror organization and not far right groups...your argument not mine. So what group? Lone wolves are not groups to be labeled as terror organizations.
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Charlottesville, El Paso, the attempted mail bombings, Roof. You have google. Your claims that I support "antifa" violence is exactly equivalent to if I were to claim that you support any of the above assholes. That's crazy, and I would never accuse you of that. And it's crazy of you to accuse me of supporting any kind of violence or terrorism.
But you continue to defend them. I won't now or ever defend any of the above mentioned individuals. They are pieces of shite and rightfully rotting in prison and some soon to face the needle. No sympathy. I lived in Charleston during the Roof incident. hes a piece of crap. But again all of those individuals are not terrorists. They are shitty people acting alone. There are plenty of other idiots that subscribe to both left, right, and far outer space ideology that commit individual acts of violence. But again they are not groups to be labeled. Some of the supremacists groups come close, but none have the numbers nor have they engaged in anything close what is currently happening.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:41 am to Errerrerrwere
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You are too far gone. There is nothing we can do for you now. We must go.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:45 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:Well I asked about the violence during these current protests, but ok I'll give you this one non-deadly possibly antifa-related attack from 4 years ago. Please list any more if you find them, I would love to read up on it. But that will have to wait, I need some sleep.
Jesus. This happened what? 4 years ago?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:48 am to Navtiger1
quote:I don't have time to address the rest of your babble, but for the last fricking time I have not once defended anyone committing crimes! It's fricking outrageous that you keep accusing me of this! Do you have any honor whatsoever? frick, man.
But you continue to defend them.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:50 am to Korkstand
Ahh so your an intellectually dishonest lire. cool.
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Ok, on the streets in riot gear battling citizens. That better?
Ok, sure they have that happening in one city in close proximity to a federal courthouse that is under siege.
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Well what the frick else are you worried those damned liberals are gonna do? We had 8 years of Obama, and despite all the fears of him driving us to communism, the claim is now that he accomplished absolutely nothing! People are obviously primed for war, so what are they afraid of, exactly?
Well Gay marriage has been legal for 8 plus years...nobody cares. If you can't see that the current political climate and rhetoric and ideas have taken a drastic swing since Obama I don't know what to tell you. Obama was closeted Socialist who understood the idea that the takeover had to be eased in over time. Now they just want to cram the socialist revolution right on in there, frick everybody.
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Well it's just that one is a bit more fascist than the other.
Actually no it's not.
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I absolutely never said that. Stop lying please.
Riiight.
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I never even mentioned any of that.
Never said you did. But your side sure loves to push those boogeymen everyday on every news station, website and newspaper.
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I promise to watch both sides if you do. Deal?
Well I absolutely don't believe you on that, but i have no problem saying the right has problems and some corrupt assholes. Trump is anything but squeaky clean, but Biden is a whole other level of corrupt swamp puppet.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:51 am to Korkstand
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Well I asked about the violence during these current protests, but ok I'll give you this one non-deadly
The guy ended up with 5 staples in his skull. Not deadly at all...
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Please list any more if you find them, I would love to read up on it. But that will have to wait, I need some sleep.
Yesterday in Chicago
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:53 am to Korkstand
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I have not once defended anyone committing crimes
Right you just pretend they don't commit crimes.
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Do you have any honor whatsoever?
Obviously a whole lot more than you!
Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:12 am to TutHillTiger
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With all that said, I don’t like the involvement of federal law enforcement when not requested by the states.
Let me ask you this, we have federal military bases all around our country. Would you be ok with the federal government using their troops to protect these bases.
If so then it’s really no different here. The cities and states have decided to let their own buildings get destroyed, but the federal government does not want their own buildings destroyed.
Kind of like, it is your right to protect your home while your neighbor has the equal right to just move out of the way of their home.
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