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re: Anyone else have friends that "hate" on them for being in college?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I know mechanics making 150k a year. Their helpers most of the work, as many trades. I know fishermen who make six figs and work during the summer, take winters off.
Your friend is in the top 5 percent in earning in the country then. If that story is true then he is an exception. BY A BUNCH.
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:07 pm to Spellingmaster
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Spellingmaster
Keep this in mind too: most people lie about their income. If someone volunteers information about how much they make, they are usually exaggerating.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:10 pm to Spellingmaster
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Your friend is in the top 5 percent in earning in the country then. If that story is true then he is an exception. BY A BUNCH.
My friend owns a construction company. He's native preference in a union friendly state. His workers make between $50-$60/hr, 12 hrs a day and 7 days a week for about 30 weeks. Overtime alone is around $4,000 a week for some of his guys.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:11 pm to The Last Coco
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Keep this in mind too: most people lie about their income. If someone volunteers information about how much they make, they are usually exaggerating.
Girls who do flagging on road projects make $40/hour.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:How many of them are in the mainland United States? How many hours a week do the mechanics work?
I know mechanics making 150k a year. Their helpers most of the work, as many trades. I know fishermen who make six figs and work during the summer, take winters off.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:17 pm to Buddy Garrity
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How many of them are in the mainland United States? How many hours a week do the mechanics work?
Well, this is the mainland.
Usually on duty for 84 hours a week. About like a Wall St. analyst.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
contiguous, my mistake
quote:no thanks
84 hours a week
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:20 pm to Buddy Garrity
Having 3-4 months off a year may make it worth it.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Girls who do flagging on road projects make $40/hour.
Had a buddy in college making $25/hr as a "fire watcher" at a plant in South LA. RIIIIIGHT. Never understood the need to lie about something like income.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:48 pm to Spellingmaster
I don't have a college degree and completely disagree with your friends. Unless you have something that makes you outstanding then not having a degree severely limits your upward mobility. I don't have one but was fortunate enough that while everyone else was in college I opened up my own company and built it from the ground up. When we moved north for the fiancé to go to med school I sold it for a decent profit. That being on my resume far outweighed not going to college and got me a job far ahead of my time and respective place with serious upward mobility. With all of that being said it was knowing people, luck, and hard work just for the sniff of close to six figures. The odds of all of that happening to others without a degree is slim to none. I wouldn't do it the same way if I could again. I am safe now but a lot had to go my way. Guess being 23 and not listening to shite anyone said paid off this time. 
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:54 pm to Spellingmaster
Read point #3
Don't worry about it man. Do your thing. If you want to go to college, do it. Just make sure you're studying something you love. DO NOT study something simply for the money. You'll end up changing careers 10 years from now.
I personally don't like college in today's format. There's a reason the government is pushing everyone to go to college. And it's not so that you're educated. That make BILLIONS a year in student loans. And you can NEVER get rid of them without paying them off.
Can't get a job? Pay us? Filing bankruptcy? Sorry, student loans cannot be part of it.
Don't worry about it man. Do your thing. If you want to go to college, do it. Just make sure you're studying something you love. DO NOT study something simply for the money. You'll end up changing careers 10 years from now.
I personally don't like college in today's format. There's a reason the government is pushing everyone to go to college. And it's not so that you're educated. That make BILLIONS a year in student loans. And you can NEVER get rid of them without paying them off.
Can't get a job? Pay us? Filing bankruptcy? Sorry, student loans cannot be part of it.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:18 am to Spellingmaster
I do not have a single friend that does not have a college degree, so no. I know people (friends of friends) that make a good living offshore, but they have to work offshore. They are away from their families half the time and have to do manual labor. Meanwhile, I work in air conditioning all day at a desk. If I want to go grab coffee or take a long lunch, I am perfectly free to do so. Further, there is a far, far greater likelihood that I would be their boss than they would ever be mine.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:30 am to LeonPhelps
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Meanwhile, I work in air conditioning all day at a desk. If I want to go grab coffee or take a long lunch, I am perfectly free to do so. Further, there is a far, far greater likelihood that I would be their boss than they would ever be mine.
I'll take it one step further. I work at home. BUT I never went to college.
A TON of business owners never went to college. Two of my good friends (one is an ex-cop, one was in the navy for 10 years) both own really successful businesses in the area.
My boss now dropped out but is widely recognized as a leader in his field. Written around 13 books and runs a 15 million dollar a year business.
In fact, our company TRAINS people to get jobs in our field. For free. I know, off the top of my head, at least 10 people who went through the course and now make 80k plus. Many of them work for us now billing out $150-$200 / hour.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 12:31 am
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:30 am to The Last Coco
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Had a buddy in college making $25/hr as a "fire watcher" at a plant in South LA. RIIIIIGHT. Never understood the need to lie about something like income.
It's a union job. Laborers local union. After training, you start out at around $34 an hour, similar to other laborers. Work about 50 hours a week.
Construction pays big bucks in Ak. Much of it is seasonal though.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:31 am to gatorrocks
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I'll take it one step further. I work at home. BUT I never went to college.
A TON of business owners never went to college. Two of my good friends (one is an ex-cop, one was in the navy for 10 years) both own really successful business in the area
This is the exception, not the norm.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:41 am to LeonPhelps
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This is the exception, not the norm.
No it's not. Not in IT... The VP of software, me and two other developers do the same thing. None of us went to college. Well, sorry. I went to college for a year and the VP has a two year degree in something totally unrelated. I honestly can't remember what it's in.
But several of my friends, ex-colleagues, etc all work from home part or full time.
Even leaders in the IT world like Jason Fried advocate working from home. And they don't really care if you have a degree. They want to know you can design and code.
https://weworkremotely.com/
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 12:44 am
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:00 am to gatorrocks
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No it's not. Not in IT.
IT is not the norm, is it?
To the OP - if people are really giving you crap (and aren't just playin around) for trying to get ahead in life they aren't your real friends. I have some really close friends from high school that didn't go to college and several of them make pretty good money. Unforunately they're always exhausted when I see them b/c they work their tails off in manual labor, outdoor jobs all year long. I'm sure several of them will end up on disability as they already complain of lower back issues at 30 yrs old. Not sure if they ever disagreed with me going to college but I sure bet they don't now.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:27 am to gatorrocks
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No it's not. Not in IT...
wait are you talking about the norm in IT being NOT having a degree? Because you are nuts if so.
Now, working from home is quickly becoming the norm in IT. But that's not really what this thread is about. If you want real job security in the IT field you better have a degree. Yeah, you have to be able to Design/code/develop but you still need that degree to get started. Can you without it, sure, but that is definitely not the norm.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:40 am to Spellingmaster
They are right but their work is harder on them. You'll be making what they make but you'll be in an office working 40 hours a week and home on the weekends 
Posted on 3/26/14 at 9:42 am to Spellingmaster
Just remind them you are raising your career floor while they're still standing on theirs.
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