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re: America's hidden pot addicts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:03 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:03 pm to Scruffy
People would be better educated if it weren’t a schedule 1 drug (which is an absolutely bullshite classification). Can’t blame the public for not being aware of what the federal government is actively suppressing research on.
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:39 pm to Jim Rockford
Will never understand why people smoke that stuff.
Crack is so much better
Crack is so much better
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:39 am to Jim Rockford
Ok, Boomer.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:40 am to Scruffy
quote:
He just wants people to stop lying about any of the addictive capabilities.
Pot is about as addictive as any non-narcotic thing people enjoy doing. Eating junk food and sugar and caffeine. Some people won’t stop sky diving or BASE jumping. Some people are absolutely obsessed with fantasy sports. At some point “addictive” became so watered down as to mean anything people like to do despite possible negative consequences. Which could be literally anything.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:46 am to rbWarEagle
quote:
People would be better educated if it weren’t a schedule 1 drug (which is an absolutely bullshite classification)
Well... we all had an opportunity to provide comments back in March.
From March 1st to 14th of 2019, the Trump Administration asked for public comments on the use and Scheduling of cannibis. They collected this information to present to the World Health Organization and United Nations for consideration of removing cannibis from Schedule I.
Results of this action are still pending I believe... or just waiting for an election October Surprise in 2020.
Federal Register
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 1:50 am
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:51 am to Jim Rockford
People, especially those with a predisposition to addiction, can become addicted even to weed. But this:
May be the most over exaggerated bunch of BS I’ve read when it comes to marijuana addiction and withdrawals. Increased anxiety? Sure. Insomnia? Yep. But psychological turmoil? Eh, unless you were self medicating for an underlying/undiagnosed psychiatric issue then not so much. And for seven weeks? There’s absolutely more going on there.
Also, thanks to them describing what recovering alcoholics go through all of the time when it comes to pressure to use and being in a culture that accepts social drinking.
And for making the case that it needs to be taken off the Schedule 1 listing for more comprehensive research.
quote:
When we spoke, he had been sober for a hard-fought seven weeks: seven weeks of sleepless nights, intermittent nausea, irritability, trouble focusing, and psychological turmoil. There were upsides, he said, in terms of reduced mental fog, a fatter wallet, and a growing sense of confidence that he could quit. “I don’t think it’s a ‘can’ as much as a ‘must,’” he said.
May be the most over exaggerated bunch of BS I’ve read when it comes to marijuana addiction and withdrawals. Increased anxiety? Sure. Insomnia? Yep. But psychological turmoil? Eh, unless you were self medicating for an underlying/undiagnosed psychiatric issue then not so much. And for seven weeks? There’s absolutely more going on there.
Also, thanks to them describing what recovering alcoholics go through all of the time when it comes to pressure to use and being in a culture that accepts social drinking.
And for making the case that it needs to be taken off the Schedule 1 listing for more comprehensive research.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:36 am to Thurston h IV
quote:
Crack is so much better
That's why cocaine is schedule 2 and marijuana is schedule 1.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:38 am to SirWinston
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I've got in a overuse cycle recently - wasnt too hard to stop cold turkey to allow my body to recalibrate itself
I've gone periods where I smoke constantly after work and on weekends.
Then I just stop.
And nothing happens.
Because it isn't chemically addictive.
People are huge fricking vaginas.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:46 am to Jim Rockford
I stopped drinking coffee one time and i couldn't poop for 3 days. It was terrible. I had to go eat taco bell 4 times to clear everything out.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:36 am to OnTheGeaux
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From March 1st to 14th of 2019, the Trump Administration asked for public comments on the use and Scheduling of cannibis. They collected this information to present to the World Health Organization and United Nations for consideration of removing cannibis from Schedule I.
I guess that’s good but I don’t understand what the UN and WHO have to do with federal drug scheduling. If I recall, either congress or the DEA could reschedule.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 3:15 pm to biglego
Well... you recall incorrectly. The rescheduling of cannibis has EVERYTHING to with the UN and WHO because of the international agreements/treaties in place.
Wiki - The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs
"The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961 is an international treaty to prohibit production and supply of specific (nominally narcotic) drugs and of drugs with similar effects except under licence for specific purposes, such as medical treatment and research.
The Single Convention, adopted in 1961, consolidated those treaties and broadened their scope to include cannabis and drugs whose effects are similar to those of the drugs specified. The Commission on Narcotic Drugs and the World Health Organization were empowered to add, remove, and transfer drugs among the treaty's four schedules of controlled substances. The International Narcotics Control Board was put in charge of administering controls on drug production, international trade, and dispensation. The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) was delegated the Board's day-to-day work of monitoring the situation in each country and working with national authorities to ensure compliance with the Single Convention."
Wiki - The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs
"The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961 is an international treaty to prohibit production and supply of specific (nominally narcotic) drugs and of drugs with similar effects except under licence for specific purposes, such as medical treatment and research.
The Single Convention, adopted in 1961, consolidated those treaties and broadened their scope to include cannabis and drugs whose effects are similar to those of the drugs specified. The Commission on Narcotic Drugs and the World Health Organization were empowered to add, remove, and transfer drugs among the treaty's four schedules of controlled substances. The International Narcotics Control Board was put in charge of administering controls on drug production, international trade, and dispensation. The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) was delegated the Board's day-to-day work of monitoring the situation in each country and working with national authorities to ensure compliance with the Single Convention."
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:28 pm to OnTheGeaux
Also from Wiki:
LINK
quote:
Cannabis could be rescheduled either legislatively, through Congress, or through the executive branch. Congress has so far rejected all bills to reschedule cannabis. However, it is not unheard of for Congress to intervene in the drug scheduling process; in February 2000, for instance, the 105th Congress, in its second official session, passed Public Law 106-172, also known as the Hillory J. Farias and Samantha Reed Date-Rape Drug Prohibition Act of 2000,[22] adding GHB to Schedule I.[23] On June 23, 2011, Rep. Barney Frank and Rep. Ron Paul introduced H.R. 2306,[24] legislation that would completely remove cannabis from the federal schedules, limiting the federal government's role to policing cross-border or interstate transfers into states where it remains illegal. The Controlled Substances Act also provides for a rulemaking process by which the United States Attorney General can reschedule cannabis administratively. These proceedings represent the only means of legalizing medical cannabis without an act of Congress. Rescheduling supporters have often cited the lengthy petition review process as a reason why cannabis is still illegal.[10] The first petition took 22 years to review, the second took 7 years, the third was denied 9 years later. A 2013 petition by two state governors is still pending.
LINK
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:44 pm to biglego
Well your President decided to rightfully honor and observe international treaties... get them onboard.
Because he ain't getting it done with the bought and paid for DC swamp and the alcohol lobbyists.
Because he ain't getting it done with the bought and paid for DC swamp and the alcohol lobbyists.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:52 pm to OnTheGeaux
It’s really frustrating. I don’t care how it gets done. Weed needs to be removed from scheduling or at least not Sched I.
I thought Obama would do it. Nope. He did shite.
I like Trump, and he’d earn a lot of good will from a lot of people if he’d get it done. If the executive branch can legally do it then he has no excuse and shouldn’t hide behind treaties.
I thought Obama would do it. Nope. He did shite.
I like Trump, and he’d earn a lot of good will from a lot of people if he’d get it done. If the executive branch can legally do it then he has no excuse and shouldn’t hide behind treaties.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:52 pm to OnTheGeaux
quote:I just read that entire long arse article and my biggest takeaway is that no one agrees on how to interpret the wording of the treaty or what it even means. What a shitshow.
Wiki - The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:54 pm to northshorebamaman
The one takeaway is that the US was the thrust behind putting weed in there
Posted on 11/27/19 at 6:57 pm to biglego
quote:That too.
The one takeaway is that the US was the thrust behind putting weed in there
Posted on 11/27/19 at 7:11 pm to biglego
quote:
he’d earn a lot of good will from a lot of people if he’d get it done. If the executive branch can legally do it then he has no excuse and shouldn’t hide behind treaties.
Amen Brother...
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