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re: Amazon seeking second headquarters for 50K employees
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:34 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:34 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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This is going to Suburban Boston or Northern VA IMO. Maybe Philly
I'd put Pittsburgh over Philly. Facebook, Google, and FedEx all have a bunch of tech offices there.
It also doesn't suck like Philly.
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:34 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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This is going to Suburban Boston
Good call. It's higher ed epicenter of America (recruitment and production of local talent), lots of young people attracted to living there, already has a booming tech business culture, is politically similar to Seattle, is on the opposite coast and gives them a eastern time zone office and a place for more east coast inclined people to live.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:35 pm to Cooter Davenport
quote:Because of Amazon had invested billions and added thousands of jobs in certain locations then those locations seem like more probable options than others, all else being equal. Obviously the types of jobs are going to be different, but I would say Columbus has a better chance with billions invested and thousands of jobs for 3 days centers and 2 fulfillment centers than if we didn't have those.
Why do people on this thread keep yammering about distance to ports or rail infrastructure or FedEx's headquarters or data centers?
quote:How many people would be moving locations as opposed to just adding new jobs? And I'm sure there is plenty of talent to pull from in Texas or the Eastern US, probably more than the Pacific Northwest.
Will our current Seattle people like living there and are there a good amount of top-flight coders, engineers, ops, finance, and marketing people already in the area or excited to move there?
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:38 pm to buckeye_vol
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How many people would be moving locations as opposed to just adding new jobs?
They're going to have to seed the place with a pretty big contingent of current employees to get it going. Including many current execs. I don't see people currently living in Seattle being very excited about moving to fricking Ohio. I could see them being fine with Boston or Denver for instance.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:39 pm to Cooter Davenport
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That's one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.
Being centrally located has zero to do with attracting talent.
horseshite.
Being within a days driving distance to over half our country's population absolutely matters.
Distance from home/school/family/etc. doesn't matter to talented individuals? Is that a joke?
ETA:
I work for a fortune 100 company and half the people I work with came from big consulting firms where they worked out of college and moved to Nashville because it’s one of the few desirable cities decently close to their family where they were willing to put down roots. They come from Memphis, Atlanta, Richmond, Charlotte, Chicago, Cincinnati, etc.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
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They could put it in Brentwood. Tons of land for a huge campus, great schools, great weather, no crime, etc.
Pipe dream, it won't happen.
Tons of land that is really expensive.
I think it would be better suited in Mt. Juliet than Brentwood.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:47 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Distance from home/school/family/etc. doesn't matter to talented individuals?
First of all this kind of person isn't driving anywhere, they're flying. So distance doesn't matter. Once again, we're not talking about brokeass warehouse workers.
Secondly, most of the type of people they're recruiting live on the coasts - one or the other - so it would make much more sense to be bicoastal - an east coast HQ and a west coast HQ - than it would to be centrally located and therefore far from everything.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:47 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Tons of land that is really expensive.
Don't they have like 25 billion in cash?
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:49 pm to Cooter Davenport
quote:Of course putting it in the middle of Nowhere in Kansas would be stupid, but a city like Dallas or Chicago males just as much sense as Seattle, if not more. I mean the drive time from New York to Chicago is actually less than Seattle to San Francisco.
That's one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.
Being centrally located has zero to do with attracting talent.
I live within 500 miles of 138 million people in the United States. Seattle is within 50 miles of 13.5 million people.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
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and moved to Nashville
They really moved to Nashville because it's fricking cool and everyone likes it. And I don't blame them. But driving distance to other places isn't going to have dick to do with Amazon's decision. That's just asinine.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:51 pm to buckeye_vol
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I mean the drive time from New York to Chicago is actually less than Seattle to San Francisco.
Who the frick cares? Airplanes! These people will be flying on airplanes!
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
Why spend more if you don't have to?
I'm going to say D.C. suburbs, Denver, Tampa Bay, Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta.
Longshot......St. Louis.
I'm going to say D.C. suburbs, Denver, Tampa Bay, Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta.
Longshot......St. Louis.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:51 pm to Cooter Davenport
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First of all this kind of person isn't driving anywhere, they're flying. So distance doesn't matter. Once again, we're not talking about brokeass warehouse workers.
Its a statement to show how close we are to the entire East coast. Clearly I don't expect these people to drive 17 hours from Boston. But it's a very short flight.
quote:
Secondly, most of the type of people they're recruiting live on the coasts - one or the other - so it would make much more sense to be bicoastal - an east coast HQ and a west coast HQ - than it would to be centrally located and therefore far from everything.
Didn't you just say that didn't matter? Are you stealing my argument?
Also, to lighten this thread up, lets be honest with each other. Half the people they're recruiting are probably from India or an Asian country.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:52 pm to Cooter Davenport
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But driving distance to other places isn't going to have dick to do with Amazon's decision. That's just asinine.
Its just an easy metric to allow people to visualize how centrally located Nashville is. I clearly do not think people are commuting 17 hours from Boston.
Obviously they will fly. But its a lot quicker and easier to get home than flying across the country.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:55 pm to Cooter Davenport
quote:They CAN fly, but I can make it to DC and Chicago on a single tank of gas. So if I'm going to visit my friends and/or family in either of those places, with my wife and kid, it's awfully convenient to be able to make the trip by car than buy multiple plane tickets and get there at roughly same time.
First of all this kind of person isn't driving anywhere, they're flying.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:55 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Why spend more if you don't have to?
I'm going to say D.C. suburbs, Denver, Tampa Bay, Dallas, Charlotte, Atlanta.
Longshot......St. Louis.
They built a massive sustainable office complex right smack dab in the middle of downtown Seattle. I doubt they care much about the price of the land
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:58 pm to buckeye_vol
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They CAN fly
That's all they'll do. This whole issue doesn't matter at all because they're not spending $5 Billion on a new campus in shite arse Ohio. For fricks sake. It's probably going to Boston.
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Didn't you just say that didn't matter? Are you stealing my argument?
Hell no it doesn't matter. No I'm not stealing your autistically-bad and silly driving distance argument, I'm using it against you by saying that even if you assumed that mattered to Amazon, which it doesn't, at all, then it would be an argument for an East Coast office, not a central one. So not only is your fundamental premise that driving distance from other places matters to Amazon when locating their new office wrong, but the conclusion you've extrapolated from it is wrong too.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:03 pm to goofball
Come on Charleston!
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:13 pm to Cooter Davenport
quote:Let's say I want to take the family to see my cousins in downtown Chicago. I can fly to Chicago non-stop for 380 for 3 tickets in a random week in October (great deal IMO).
Who the frick cares? Airplanes! These people will be flying on airplanes!
It's about an hour and a half flight. Add 25 minutes to the airport, and 50 minutes from O'Hara to downtown. Add 10 minutes for parking, get there an hour ahead of time, 20 minute to unboard, and if I want to rent a car to see our friends in the suburbs, add another 20 minutes to get a rental car. So now my trip is an 4 and a half hours at a minimum.
Now take that 380 and add parking and the rental car, and we're approaching 500 round trip, and 4.5 hours travel one way. I can make it to Chicago in a little over 5 hours on a single tank of gas. Throw in an extra tank just for argument purposes, and I could spend as much time traveling by car, and save $400.
Wouldn't having that option to drive be nice for most people, even those making good money?
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