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re: Amazing music footnote from 1991

Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:25 am to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:25 am to
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Debuted with no fanfare. Nobody knew who they were. That's why I got to see them at Tipitinas for a few bucks and then they were the opening act for a show that had Smashing Pumpkins and RHCP for $15 at the municipal auditorium.



I saw them at Lollapalooza right around the time Alive was getting a lot of MTV airplay. Almost their whole set was Beatles covers.

Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:26 am to
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What has happened to the music world?


The generation following has lousy taste in what they call music.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:27 am to
I was talking before that. I skipped lollapalooza because I had seen many of those bands already in small NOLA bars.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:27 am to
I wouldn't even call the 90s a Rock and Roll "Renaissance" due to the fact that rock was pretty freaking good during the 80s. You had mainstream bands like Journey, Guns 'N Roses, Def Leppard, Van Halen, and Bon Jovi putting out some really good stuff. Not to mention the fact that bands like Queen and Aerosmith were re-emerging as a musical force in the mid/late-80s.

I think the 90s and into the early-00s was really the golden age for alternative rock. Since that time, however, and I don't care what anyone says - rock and roll is currently dead. You have some good indie bands out there but rock is no longer mainstream. It's been replaced by Hip-Hop and Rap.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:29 am to
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My daighter and her friends are obsessed with oversized band t-shirts


My granddaughter is all about Nirvana, The Smiths, The Cure.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:31 am to
This happened in the 70,s all the time….
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:31 am to
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You wont find these bands on the radio or in main stream. You have to put a little effort in and be willing to try new things. Listen to an album of a band you heard about.
You don't get it. We did that back then too. I can't tell you how many times I went to Paradise Records and purchased a CD of a band I had no clue what they sounded like, just liked the artwork or name of the band. Was bored and wanted to spend some money and get some new music to smoke some weed to. In fact, that was damn near every other time I went to the store to purchase music back then.

It's not that there aren't any good bands that come out today. It's that for every 1 good band (indie label/major label/obscure internet streaming only) - there were 10 bands back then.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:31 am to
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Still lots of great records being put out there.

This is true but you won't hear them on the radio. You have to do a lot of digging around online and weed through a lot of meh.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:33 am to
100% agree.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:34 am to
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You don't get it. We did that back then too


Bingo. All that's changed is the media and quality.

We had to buy or borrow albums to find out what was on it. Today its so much easier. There's 100x as much crap available now.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78031 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:34 am to
Good. My kids too. Plus when they have 80s day at school they've got dozens of my old t-shirts to choose from. I looked on up, Public Image Ltd. from 1989 and it goes for $325 on eBay.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:34 am to
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I think the 90s and into the early-00s was really the golden age for alternative rock.
Agreed.

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Since that time, however, and I don't care what anyone says - rock and roll is currently dead.
Also agreed.

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You have some good indie bands out there but rock is no longer mainstream. It's been replaced by Hip-Hop and Rap.
Agreed #3.

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I wouldn't even call the 90s a Rock and Roll "Renaissance" due to the fact that rock was pretty freaking good during the 80s.
There was good music from the 50's all the way into the 80's. The Renaissance part was the explosion of music festivals, rock shows, etc. If it was at a level 7 in the 80's, it was at level 10+ in the 90's.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78031 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:35 am to
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You don't get it. We did that back then too. I can't tell you how many times I went to Paradise Records and purchased a CD of a band I had no clue what they sounded like, just liked the artwork or name of the band
That's what college radio was for. WTUL in New Orleans.
Posted by KAHog
South Trough
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:36 am to
You can tell it was a great era because of the "middling" bands of that time. Yes, the greatness of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Metallica, Pumpkins, etc., but think about the lower tier. Hole, Alice in Chains, Weezer, hell Radiohead came out in the mid90's. Even the "underlings" were more talented then this ear rot we have for the last 20 years.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295684 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:37 am to
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Plus when they have 80s day at school they've got dozens of my old t-shirts to choose from. I looked on up, Public Image Ltd. from 1989 and it goes for $325 on eBay.


Mine is into vinyl, it's incredible what they want for some albums.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78031 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:39 am to
Mine aren't doing the vinyl, but services like spotify make searching for good music incredibly easy. I can find all sorts of stuff I heard in passing 35 years ago but didn't have time or money to invest into listening.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:40 am to
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I'd say Use Your Illusion I&II have probably aged the worst in my opinion.

Pearl Jam "Ten", for me, may have aged the best. Its a really, really spectacular album that captures that age perfectly. Full of great, listenable grunge era songs and a surprising amount of depth and interesting lyrics.


Agree with your thoughts on Ten but strongly disagree with your opinion that Use Your Illusion aged the worst. There are some all time classics on the double album. Yesterday, Estranged, and Civil War among other are some of the best work from GNR from a purely musical aspect (not popularity aspect) as the arrangements are superb.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:40 am to
There was a whole explosion of great artists that came from Austin in the 90's too. Bands that toured and played shows but never made it big. It just so happened that those same bands were unfortunately competing with some heavy hitters with the major labels at the same time. Thus, they never really made it. One that comes to mind was Soulhat. Spoon was another one, although Spoon hit it big for a lot longer than Soulhat did.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:41 am to
A lot of all this depends on when you grew up…. Serious… I was lucky that my brother was 8 years older than me and turned me on to great rock and rolls by the mid 70’s…..
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:42 am to
AIC was and should never be considered lower tier.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 10:44 am
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