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Aircraft carrying 11 crashes in Pacific Ocean

Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:25 am
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:25 am
Again

This is the third one this year from this unit and most recently. What is going on? Sounds shady.

“The USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier launched a search and rescue effort in the Pacific Ocean after a U.S. Navy plane with 11 on board crashed Wednesday while en route to the ship.
U.S. Navy helicopters rescued eight personnel who were on board the C-2 "Greyhound" aircraft, a U.S. Navy official told Fox News. They have been transferred to the USS Ronald Reagan for evaluation and "are in good condition at this time," US Navy's 7th Fleet said in a statement.
The U.S. Navy, with help from Japan is still searching for the remaining three missing.“
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 6:34 am
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:27 am to
A US Navy plane from the 7th fleet too.


7th fleet doing work this year.

ETA: for those of you who won't click the link:

8 have been rescued with minor or no injuries. Three are still missing.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 6:29 am
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14221 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:35 am to
Yeah, third time this happened should raise major flags. Outside of maintenance issues, this can’t be bad luck
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:44 am to
This whole issue seems to be isolated to just the 7th fleet.

Makes me wonder if the other fleets have been lucky or are just better at what they do. Either way, the CONF needs to get with his people and figure out what's going on.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14221 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:45 am to
Sounds like the whole 7th is about to have a major chain of command change. That maintenance commander is screwed, unless they find foul play, but that’s doubtful.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20668 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:49 am to
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Sounds like the whole 7th is about to have a major chain of command change. That maintenance commander is screwed, unless they find foul play, but that’s doubtful.


I tend to agree. However, from my understanding there are severe shortages in supply that may cause cannibalization and utilization of parts that have exceeded their lifespan.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:54 am to
I'd be more concerned about the amount of navy surface ships playing bumper cars over there. 3 collisions in the last few months... get your shite together 7th fleet.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14221 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:59 am to
Yeah bro, when that headline popped up on my feed, automatically assumed it was the 7th. As far as maintenance and parts, I’ve flown in some shady aircraft on missions with actual 100mph tape and rigged repairs holding the plane together, so that doesn’t shock me. What about rushed pilots/training? Trying to see what the conditions were.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110733 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:02 am to
It’s almost as if some in the Navy are more focused on emo pixie girls than on doing their jobs.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:05 am to
Aging equipment, lack of repair parts, budget cuts, sensitivity training being more important than job training... could be any number of factors.

One of my old chiefs from back on the usetafish was the CMC over 7th Fleet. I bet that fricker is glad he was transferred not long ago.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:06 am to
quote:


It’s almost as if some in the Navy are more focused on emo pixie girls than on doing their jobs.


It's the entire military... the great social experiment is crashing and burning.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14221 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:09 am to
Glad I got out when I did. My buddy moved down here two weeks ago and left the service after 14 years. Said he couldn’t take the changes anymore. Retention is now at an all time low of 21% for SF. Actual 12 man ODAs with only one senior guy and the rest cherries. And all this female crap. They are trying to “push” through two females like they did the Rangers.
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:10 am to
quote:

there are severe shortages in supply that may cause cannibalization and utilization of parts that have exceeded their lifespan.


Welcome to USMC maintenance


Seriously though, if an aircraft impacted the water and 8 people were pulled out successfully with minimal injury it sounds like a maintenance issue that caused the pilots to have to ditch it in the water.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
171150 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:10 am to
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I'd be more concerned about the amount of navy surface ships playing bumper cars over there. 3 collisions in the last few months... get your shite together 7th fleet.
don't you dare say this on the poli board, NT will call you a sell-out.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Aging equipment, lack of repair parts, budget cuts, sensitivity training being more important than job training... could be any number of factors.
Probably a combination of all of these. And the fact that our Navy isn't big enough.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:17 am to
quote:

Seriously though, if an aircraft impacted the water and 8 people were pulled out successfully with minimal injury it sounds like a maintenance issue that caused the pilots to have to ditch it in the water.
I'm trying to figure out how a twin engine airplane would have to ditch at sea.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14221 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:22 am to
The Navy is imploding. Terd, you better right the ship.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:26 am to
Put women back in administrative-only roles and everything would right itself.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14221 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:32 am to
Agree 100%
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:42 am to
quote:

I'm trying to figure out how a twin engine airplane would have to ditch at sea.


Same here man, too many variables at play. One thing that comes to mind is fuel starvation or contamination. It happens more often than you think, but usually on the civilian side of aviation. That's pure speculation though.

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