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re: Advice for scraping popcorn ceilings (some are painted). Updated

Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
Not just water. Use soapy water
Posted by Phil0ndeeez
Houston
Member since Apr 2013
1396 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:42 pm to
enjoy white boogers for a week or so
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11150 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:46 pm to
This is interesting, I think I'll have it tested for asbestos here

Western Analytical Lab

Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4087 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:49 pm to
Had the luxury of being able to do this in the house I restored. It was easier for me because I had ripped out all the carpeting before I started.

Laid visqueen on the floor, sprayed the ceiling with soapy water and used various sizes of scrapers to scrape the ceiling, taking care not to damage the joint tape when doing so.

Rolled up the visqueen and threw it away.

Be prepared to do a lot of finishing work on your ceiling.

Romex is a very forgiving spray and masks a lot lazy floating done by the installers. I had to fill in every nail hole and had to refloat damn near every seam.

I will never do a project like that again. I will rip out the old ceiling and install new Sheetrock.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:52 pm to
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I will never do a project like that again. I will rip out the old ceiling and install new Sheetrock.


I tried to tell him. I cannot stress enough how much this project sucks.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105218 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:54 pm to
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popcorn ceilings


Trashy.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11150 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:54 pm to
We're going to be replacing all floors in the house, so I don't have to be as careful about that.

I plan on having someone come in behind me to patch up the sheetrock imperfections and re-texture with the modern texture of choice. Any idea on how much this costs?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11150 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:56 pm to
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I tried to tell him. I cannot stress enough how much this project sucks.


If it was localized to a room or two maybe. But, we have 2200 SF of house to remove this garbage from.
Posted by Shamalamadingdong
Member since Mar 2015
188 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:56 pm to
Easiest way is to just hang new rock over the top.

The reason for redoing screw heads and joints is normally because the finisher knows it is getting sprayed so no need to be perfect on his taping and floating.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11754 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:57 pm to
No need to add texture.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11150 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Easiest way is to just hang new rock over the top.


Thought about hanging 1/4" thin sheet over it, but it still has to be taped and floated. Adding in the cost of material, it seems like this would be more expensive (assuming the existing sheetrock installation is descent).
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11150 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

No need to add texture.


So what do people do? Skim coat with something and then paint? What is it coated with?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11754 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:01 pm to
Once you have your joints done use PVA primer and a few coats of flat ceiling paint. I haven't seen too many new or remodeled houses with textured ceilings.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:04 pm to
How much do you think it costs to re-Sheetrock the ceiling on a 2400 sq ft home?
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:11 pm to
Fixed that problem at my house by using Mexicans.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13460 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:15 pm to
Remove it and put new sheetrock in. I live in an older house. Built in the late 60s. The only room in the house that had popcorn was the downstairs bath. I think the faucet above it must have leaked at some point and they just went cheap with repairing it. About two years ago I ripped out all of the walls. Mix of Tile about 4 feet up, and drywall the rest of the way. I was going to scrape the ceiling since I had already made a huge mess, and was also going to rip the tile floor out. But since I already had a huge mess and was putting new walls in anyways I just ripped it all down. I framed the walls myself, and hired some guys to come hang new drywall and the ceiling. They had it up, taped, sanded, and painted all in two days. Probably would have taken me a couple of weekends working off and on. The room wasn't huge, but I was glad to have it all fresh instead of a mix of new and old, scraped popcorn.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26226 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:34 pm to
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How bad did it come back? 2-3% Chrysotile?


Something like that.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

How much do you think it costs to re-Sheetrock the ceiling on a 2400 sq ft home?


I have no idea, but whatever the cost is, it'd be worth it.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26226 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:36 pm to
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First, how did you test it? Second, how did you go about removing the asbestos-laden texture from the ceiling?


Sent it to a company who specializes in removal of asbestos. They sent it to a lab. I thought it was kinda fishy since the company was also providing quotes to remove my asbestos so I sent in a private 2nd sample to same lab. They verified the exact same thing.

I removed it by taking a scraper and putting it into a ziplock bag. Not that difficult.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96770 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:36 pm to
My house had it in my livingroom and I got a scrapper and then plugged in the electric sander. Make sure you have a fan that is blowing all that stuff outside AND cover up your A/C vents. You do not want that crap all over your house.

Be sure to wear a good mask and goggles. The dust will get all over you, but just shower off after. TOok me about 3-4 hours total for a 600 sqft area.

Good luck.
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