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re: 2017 Ford Raptor to have 3.5l V-6 ecoboost only
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:12 am to N2cars
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:12 am to N2cars
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I always hated that about turbo engines.
Why?? There's a really sweat sound in a turbo whistle.. And then that blowoff valve sound.. Hard to beat.
Listen
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:15 am
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:15 am to Phil A Sheo
I always felt it was hard to modulate the power, it seemed like it was "on" or "off".
Even in my 6.7 today, if I'm in a turn or hitting a on-ramp and I tromp it too hard, hang on.
Even in my 6.7 today, if I'm in a turn or hitting a on-ramp and I tromp it too hard, hang on.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:18 am to meauxjeaux2
With Hummer H2 no longer in production, someone had to exploit that "insecure male" market. Ford does it well with this and the lifted Super Duper Duty.
I admit to wanting a modern day Bronco though.
I admit to wanting a modern day Bronco though.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:21 am
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:18 am to Phil A Sheo
8500 RPM 
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:23 am to N2cars
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I always felt it was hard to modulate the power, it seemed like it was "on" or "off".
Yeah I get that in large single turbos.. Hell I drove a Civic hatch for a while that sported a T3/T4 and while is not a giant by any means.. The damn thing could break the tire loose at interstate speeds when passing.. Scary shite sometimes. Definitely that hold on to your arse moment.
Cars running a twin sequential setup tend to not have that characteristic as bad.. Bud still occurs..
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:25 am
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:29 am to Phil A Sheo
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twin sequential setup
I guess that was my question:
Wouldn't it be better to have one come on for a millisecond before the second one to give a smoother uptake in power?
IDK that much about it though and haven't driven one so maybe it's a non-factor now.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:30 am to McCaigBro69
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Lol I won't admit to being an automobile genius or anything, but I would totally lose power on the highway and almost caused several wrecks when I'd try to switch lanes.
There was a recall for that. They don't do that anymore.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:32 am to member12
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the lifted Super Duper Duty
Making things up? Dealer installed lifts can be had from just about any manufacturer.
But brand loyalty and the associated ignorant bashing of other brands is always fun
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:34 am to N2cars
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Wouldn't it be better to have one come on for a millisecond before the second one to give a smoother uptake in power?
Older Supras had this , but you still knew the change in power..
Now Nissans GTR .. It just feels like solid power thru out power band.
Newer tech and onboard computers have really made it a much easier and I more driver friendly type of power.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:35 am to LNCHBOX
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There was a recall for that. They don't do that anymore.
I think my personal experience through the matter is reason enough to never want to own an Ecoboost alone, it could have killed me, or worse someone else.
Over 60K on my 6.2 and not one issue as of yet.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:35 am to N2cars
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I always felt it was hard to modulate the power, it seemed like it was "on" or "off".
Even in my 6.7 today, if I'm in a turn or hitting a on-ramp and I tromp it too hard, hang on
Just downshift to the next lowest gear. My evo was a fricking snail until 3400RPM so I would just downshift and the power was instant.
And to the OP..450hp is a cakewalk. There are companies making 500hp to the wheels on those ecoboosts. The 450hp Ford would advertise is to the crank.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:37 am to Adam4LSU
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My evo was a fricking snail until 3400RPM so I would just downshift and the power was instant.
Yeah, but you had the luxury of transferring that power to 4 wheels as opposed to two.
Evo's and Subies are really fun car to drive..
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:38 am
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:38 am to Phil A Sheo
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Newer tech and onboard computers have really made it a much easier and I more driver friendly type of power.
This. I've been out of the game for a while now but I used to self tune my EVO. I used a program called evoscan that would basically let me edit all of my fuel/timing tables as well as boost under any load %. With modern turbo vehicles..you can pretty much tune whatever you want it to do.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:39 am to N2cars
Having a sequential setup is a lot harder and more complicated on a V-motor because you have exhaust pipes coming out of the motor on opposite sides in opposite directions. With a sequential setup you need to have the turbos right on top of each other, because the smaller turbo feeds boost into the larger one. They make boost in SEQUENCE. It's a million times easier with a straight motor because all the exhaust is already on one side.
To do that with a V motor you have to route all the exhaust to one side, which is a pain in the dick.
To do that with a V motor you have to route all the exhaust to one side, which is a pain in the dick.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:39 am to Phil A Sheo
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Yeah, but you had the luxury of transferring that power to 4 wheels as opposed to two.
I would imagine the raptor is 4x4?
It would be fun..that's for surePosted on 1/14/16 at 11:43 am to McCaigBro69
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think my personal experience through the matter is reason enough to never want to own an Ecoboost alone,
Well, that's not particularly rational, but OK.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:45 am to Them
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Having a sequential setup is a lot harder and more complicated on a V-motor
Not with the advanced engine management we have we have today.. essentially all that happens is both turbos spool ..comp allows turbo 1 to boost then thru power band slowly shuts of 1 while 2 comes online.. It ain't hard.. It just getting it right
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:46 am to LNCHBOX
Mine shuddered on me the other day for the first time
It's a 2013 that was manufactured after the fix
First and only time it's ever done it. I'm not overly worried about it. It does supposedly happen in rainy conditions and it was raining at the time.
It's a 2013 that was manufactured after the fix
First and only time it's ever done it. I'm not overly worried about it. It does supposedly happen in rainy conditions and it was raining at the time.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:57 am to Them
Thanks for the explanation. What do you do for a living, if you don't mind the question.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:01 pm to Them
I was under the impression the Supra was the only car to have the sequential turbo setup.
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