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re: 100 years ago today - the Meuse-Argonne Offensive of World War I

Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:26 am to
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:26 am to
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It’s crazy the world fell back into war so quickly afterwards. With as ruthless as ww1 was you’d think war would be the absolute last thing anyone would want.



Good point. But that's why Hitler was allowed to get away with so much leading up to WW2. (re-arming Germany, reclaiming Austria, etc) Nobody wanted to rush back into a war.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:42 am to
And with all that carnage from those wars, Spanish flu came along and wiped out millions more. What a shitty time to be alive.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 11:25 am to
Does every World War One thread have to be hi-jacked into a World War Two thread?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71721 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:45 pm to
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Does every World War One thread have to be hi-jacked into a World War Two thread?



It seems like we always end up talking about WWII in these threads because very few of the people on this board know anything about WWI. I would argue that the first war had more lasting implications than the second, simply because the first one directly spawned the second.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:59 pm to
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Even after the armistice was signed in November 1918, you still had fighting going on in eastern Europe and Russia well into the 20s


For the most part, fighting in the east had ceased after 1923. The only other major conflict you had was the Chinese Civil War, which lasted nearly 22 years and was a subplot or plot point in other conflicts.

German anger at Versailles ensured they would attempt to rearm, as they did almost immediately with Schleicher forming shell companies that produced armaments in the Soviet Union, as well as overtures made by Italian fascists that they would help Germany re-arm.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71721 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:20 pm to
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For the most part, fighting in the east had ceased after 1923. The only other major conflict you had was the Chinese Civil War, which lasted nearly 22 years and was a subplot or plot point in other conflicts.


You had six major conflicts in the Interwar Period - all of them a direct result of World War I:

1. The Russian Civil War (1918-1923)
2. The Turkish War for Independence (1919-1923)
3. The Chinese Civil War (1927-1936)
4. The Second Italian-Ethiopian War (1935-1939)
5. The Spanish Civil War (1936-1939)
6. The Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945)

Many historians believe the Second World War actually began in 1937 with the Japanese invasion of China rather than with the German invasion of Poland in 1939. The Sino-Japanese War, nevertheless, became part of the Second World War when Japan went to war with the United States and Great Britain in December 1941.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56158 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:25 pm to
Look, folks, we only have to wait a little over a month to put World War One to bed forever around here. Can we just wait until then to talk about everything AFTER WWI in every WWI thread that arises?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 11:04 pm to
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Many historians believe the Second World War actually began in 1937 with the Japanese invasion of China rather than with the German invasion of Poland in 1939. The Sino-Japanese War, nevertheless, became part of the Second World War when Japan went to war with the United States and Great Britain in December 1941.



I'm familiar with what historians think, but I think you could make the argument that WWII started in 1927, with the beginning of the Chinese Civil War, as the region would see intermittent conflict every year from 1927 to 1953.
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