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re: Will the "true Saints fans" explain why winning today is important?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:17 pm to jevins slickin
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:17 pm to jevins slickin
So I guess getting Jonathan Sullivan in the top 5 a few years ago worked out really well....
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:18 pm to patches_ohoulihan
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The logic is that the players are getting paid a shite load of money to compete and play.
We understand the players wanting to win. Why didn't they play 2nd string then?
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That they get a high draft pick? That doesn't guarantee that the players will be any better than someone picked in the second round.
It certainly helps to pick 5+ spots earlier every round wouldn't you say? You have a better chance.
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because we don't need you.
patches_ohoulihan
Member since Jun 2013
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You aren't part of the board as evidenced by your 16 posts in over a year dipshit. Go frick yourself.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:39 pm to Sho Nuff
Are you saying we tank every season and just pick early every year?
The Raiders and Patriots are proof that the draft isn't exactly a lock that if you draft early you get better players.
The Raiders and Patriots are proof that the draft isn't exactly a lock that if you draft early you get better players.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:43 pm to jdrumdog
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Are you saying we tank every season and just pick early every year?
Are you serious with this question?
This one season. This was a lost season once they shite the bed against the Panthers and Falcons at home. For all the super fans who cared that they won, why didn't the Saints give a frick when they could be going to the playoffs had they just won one of those games? Instead, they lost both and there is no playoffs this year.
Winning game #7 did nothing for the franchise. Nobody wanted this scenario. Your question makes no sense as we would all rather the Saints in the playoffs. But since they suck this year, why not get as high a draft pick as possible?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:02 pm to Sho Nuff
The point of the game is to win.
And the players and coaches playing for their futures. Tank will never be mentioned by coaches or players in an NFL locker room.
Because they have that mindset, I have no reason to root against the team. I want what they want. And they want to win.
It's that easy to me. I get it if you're of the opposite opinion. I'm not going to call you a non true fan.
And the players and coaches playing for their futures. Tank will never be mentioned by coaches or players in an NFL locker room.
Because they have that mindset, I have no reason to root against the team. I want what they want. And they want to win.
It's that easy to me. I get it if you're of the opposite opinion. I'm not going to call you a non true fan.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:06 pm to Rand AlThor
Good enough reasoning for me, I just didn't like seeing a bunch of people post acting like they were true fans by wanting the Saints to win and people who wanted a higher draft pick weren't.
shite, I wanted the Saints to win every game this year. They sucked. This win did nothing for them at all as far as a franchise is concerned. But for the players and coaches, a win is a win. I would rather have seen the backups get the win if they were going to win anyway.
shite, I wanted the Saints to win every game this year. They sucked. This win did nothing for them at all as far as a franchise is concerned. But for the players and coaches, a win is a win. I would rather have seen the backups get the win if they were going to win anyway.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:19 pm to Sho Nuff
the fact of the matter is that the long play here was to minimize risk in a meaningless game...sit the starters and tell them to go out and win
if they do, great
If they don't then there is a benefit to the team
no one is being asked to throw a game in that scenario. They took the short play which is their prerogative but it was the wrong play in any logical measurement of risk/reward
if they do, great
If they don't then there is a benefit to the team
no one is being asked to throw a game in that scenario. They took the short play which is their prerogative but it was the wrong play in any logical measurement of risk/reward
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:03 pm to cgrand
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the fact of the matter is that the long play here was to minimize risk in a meaningless game...sit the starters and tell them to go out and win
if they do, great
If they don't then there is a benefit to the team
Exactly.
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They took the short play which is their prerogative but it was the wrong play in any logical measurement of risk/reward
Yep. I want the Saints to always win, but here there was no logic to it. It was irrational to want the Saints to win to feel good. Those fans will feel it again when we're picking 13/14 in the draft. This short lived feeling of happiness from a meaningless win won't compare to watching 7 rounds in the NFL draft knowing the Saints should be picking 5+ spots higher.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:11 pm to Sho Nuff
Hey sho nuff. So you are suggesting that just because I haven't been a member on this board as long as you that I don't know what I'm talking about? Well, I have been a season ticket holder since 1998 which is more than I can probany say for your little bitch arse. Bottom line is that the players and coaches play to win, not to tank for a higher draft pick which is exactly what they did. If you want to go toe to toe, bring in on little man..
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:14 pm to patches_ohoulihan
I said nothing of the sort. You said this board doesn't need my negativity and I said you haven't posted but 16 times in a year and a half on this board so how would you know anything about it?
As I said before, go frick yourself.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:16 pm to Sho Nuff
Because the players are playing for their fricking job. It's a moot point. As a fan, I hoped we lost.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:19 pm to pivey14
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Because the players are playing for their fricking job.
We've been clear we understand why the players have. In that case, why not play the backups then? See what they have and play for their job.
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It's a moot point.
No doubt. The thread was because some were acting like you were only a true fan if you wanted the Saints to win a meaningless game today. I thought the true fans were thinking long term and wanted higher draft picks every round. Most agreed with me. Some didn't. It doesn't matter, like you said it's done.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:24 pm to Sho Nuff
I think the bigger issue here is that both with the saints and the pelicans the front office/ownership seems to have no regard for opportunity cost
play the starters in a meaningless game? Sure!
trade up in the first round and/or trade away first round picks? go go go!
sign veteran players to huge money when lower cost options are available? Why not!
this management of both teams is short sighted and hard headed
play the starters in a meaningless game? Sure!
trade up in the first round and/or trade away first round picks? go go go!
sign veteran players to huge money when lower cost options are available? Why not!
this management of both teams is short sighted and hard headed
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:38 pm to Sho Nuff
Sho nuff:
definition: an individual who possesses the highest quality of being a douche bag.
Used in a sentence:
Man, you are acting like that trolling a-hole sho nuff; therefore, you must be a douche bag.
Ps: I don't have to be a member for a long time to know that you are a negative troll.
definition: an individual who possesses the highest quality of being a douche bag.
Used in a sentence:
Man, you are acting like that trolling a-hole sho nuff; therefore, you must be a douche bag.
Ps: I don't have to be a member for a long time to know that you are a negative troll.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:49 pm to patches_ohoulihan
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Sho nuff:
definition: an individual who possesses the highest quality of being a douche bag.
Used in a sentence:
Man, you are acting like that trolling a-hole sho nuff; therefore, you must be a douche bag.
I bet this sounded a lot better in your head
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Ps: I don't have to be a member for a long time to know that you are a negative troll.
Yes, yes you do. I want the Saints to do well. The Saints did not this year. At this point, it was try to make lemonade out of lemons and get a higher draft pick. OR, at least start the 2nd stringers to see what they can do. Instead, they didn't do anything worthy today. This isn't negative talk, it's realistic talk, but you're too stupid to realize this.
I guess in your mind, a 3 point win over a 2 win team was so worth a 7-9 season and drafting 5 spots lower every round
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:52 pm to Sho Nuff
Winning today was important because today, Tampa Bay reminded me of pre 1986 Saints and I never want to go back to that haplessness.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 9:19 pm to Dead End
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You play to win the Super Bowl. This isn't JV. A top 10 pick would have been huge
Disagree
They are paid to do a job....and playing for their lively hood
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