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re: When is enough, enough for Harper?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:54 am to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 10/24/12 at 10:54 am to Burt Reynolds
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Not sure if serious
dead serious, read blueslover's posts in this thread for clarification.
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:01 am to The Sad Banana
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If I had to name the three best players on defense right now, I'd go with Lofton, Harper and Jordan. Everyone else has been either comically bad or just plain invisible.
Same, but I'd add Greer to that list. Hicks is starting to earn a spot on that list as well.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 11:11 am to mm2316
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Same, but I'd add Greer to that list.
ditto. he was injured for a bit. so his stats arent as impressive
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:30 pm to Breesus
Saints talk law: If you start a thread about how a professional football player on the New Orleans Saints sucks, you will be bashed, and Breesus will post in that thread.
Exception: Scott Shanle.
Exception: Scott Shanle.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:32 pm to TortiousTiger
Blow it out yo arse sweetheart.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:33 pm to TortiousTiger
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Saints talk law: If you start a thread about how a professional football player on the New Orleans Saints sucks, you will be bashed, and Breesus will post in that thread.
Its an honor just to be mentioned. You're wrong, but i like the effort. I have to defend my team you know.
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Also this:
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Blow it out yo arse sweetheart.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:47 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:I agree with this. But he is still an absolute liability in pass coverage. We are at that 7 year itch point with him. Where you know you are tired of him but you don't know for sure if you can easily replace him.
He's a better all around safety than most in the NFL.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:16 am to CM84
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Great, another Harper thread!
yeah. New and refreshing topics are encouraged.
I'm not crazy about Harper but this consatnt bashing is old as frick. Both he and Jenkins have had a rough going of it the going back to last year.
The last few weeks, they have both made plays that ended up helping us win too.
After the rough start we had this year, you'd think people would lighten up some after a few wins. As long as the defense continues to limit points in the second half like they have the past three games, things should keep getting better. Sure, we might give up a frick ton of yards but we have the offense to hang with any team.
This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 12:32 am
Posted on 10/25/12 at 6:22 am to LooseCannon22282
In my somewhat rookie, unprofessional, inexperienced opinion, A safety is only as good as the DB's and fellow safety, right? A corner who messes up his coverage could make a safety look bad regularly. I have no problem with the job Harper is doing at all.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:05 am to Polycarp
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In my somewhat rookie, unprofessional, inexperienced opinion, A safety is only as good as the DB's and fellow safety, right? A corner who messes up his coverage could make a safety look bad regularly. I have no problem with the job Harper is doing at all.
you should stick around. I think we can be friends.
Posted on 10/25/12 at 9:13 am to Polycarp
polycarp, tribute name?
a truly unique sliver of cajun media history
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thought this was cool and relevant on Jordan-
New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo got his wish. Defensive end Cam Jordan has been credited by the NFL for a sack and forced fumble of Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman on Sunday.
"I think it needs to be fixed," Spagnuolo said on Monday. "It was a sack-(forced) fumble. It's a pass play. He tackles him behind the line of scrimmage and the ball came out. That was a sack-(forced) fumble and a great play by a defensive end on the goal line."
Jordan sacked Freeman on fourth-and-goal at the Saints' 1-yard line with the Buccaneers trailing by a touchdown. The ball was turned over on downs to the Saints, who drove down the field to score a touchdown and go up by 14 points on the next series.
The tackle was originally credited to Saints linebacker Will Herring.
LINK
a truly unique sliver of cajun media history
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thought this was cool and relevant on Jordan-
New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo got his wish. Defensive end Cam Jordan has been credited by the NFL for a sack and forced fumble of Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman on Sunday.
"I think it needs to be fixed," Spagnuolo said on Monday. "It was a sack-(forced) fumble. It's a pass play. He tackles him behind the line of scrimmage and the ball came out. That was a sack-(forced) fumble and a great play by a defensive end on the goal line."
Jordan sacked Freeman on fourth-and-goal at the Saints' 1-yard line with the Buccaneers trailing by a touchdown. The ball was turned over on downs to the Saints, who drove down the field to score a touchdown and go up by 14 points on the next series.
The tackle was originally credited to Saints linebacker Will Herring.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/26/12 at 9:10 am to blueslover
to be fair in Harper's coverage weakness here's a scathing review-
A circus chimpanzee sitting on a bar stool could figure it out — Saints SS Roman Harper cannot defend the back half of the field.
In the Saints’ first win of the season against San Diego in Week Five, it appeared defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo recognized Harper's limitations, as the strong safety was used heavily as a nickel linebacker in the box and was fairly effective matching up with Antonio Gates in underneath man coverage, frustrating the Pro Bowl tight end with his clingy style.
Injuries to LBs David Hawthorne and Jonathan Casillas prompted the move. With Casillas and Jonathan Vilma returning to the lineup against Tampa Bay in Week Seven, Harper returned to the back end, and Buccaneers QB Josh Freeman repeatedly feasted on the coverage liability. The perfect illustration of this came in the third quarter when Freeman connected with Vincent Jackson on a poorly played 95-yard reception that the tight-hipped, short-stepping Harper grossly undercut from the two-deep position he never should be allowed to play.
MORE HERE
A circus chimpanzee sitting on a bar stool could figure it out — Saints SS Roman Harper cannot defend the back half of the field.
In the Saints’ first win of the season against San Diego in Week Five, it appeared defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo recognized Harper's limitations, as the strong safety was used heavily as a nickel linebacker in the box and was fairly effective matching up with Antonio Gates in underneath man coverage, frustrating the Pro Bowl tight end with his clingy style.
Injuries to LBs David Hawthorne and Jonathan Casillas prompted the move. With Casillas and Jonathan Vilma returning to the lineup against Tampa Bay in Week Seven, Harper returned to the back end, and Buccaneers QB Josh Freeman repeatedly feasted on the coverage liability. The perfect illustration of this came in the third quarter when Freeman connected with Vincent Jackson on a poorly played 95-yard reception that the tight-hipped, short-stepping Harper grossly undercut from the two-deep position he never should be allowed to play.
MORE HERE
Posted on 10/26/12 at 9:12 am to sunnydaze
I will always love his contributions but the last two years he's been poo poo.
Cut
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 8:34 pm to sunnydaze
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