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re: Tyler Shough

Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:41 am to
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:41 am to
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CKM has decided he needs to protect his job
Come on man. He’s 5 games into his tenure and the Saints have been very loyal. There is no way Coach Moore’s current concern is job security.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:43 am to
I was actually kidding with that one trying to get a rise out of people
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:47 am to
quote:

I was actually kidding with that one trying to get a rise out of people


You definitely got me man.

I just know you’ve been predicting Shough time initially starting with last game and wondering why Coach Moore wasn’t listening to you.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:49 am to
I did think there were two places to start him, week 5 or after the bye.

I was not a Shough fan pre-draft but if you're using the 40th pick he has to play at some point.

I don't see it with Rattler, its smoke and mirrors. He doesn't make mistakes but he doesn't do anything else.

Clearly CKM prefers that for now and would rather a guy that doesn't lose the game for him
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:05 am to
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Clearly. CKM has decided he needs to protect his job and go with the very safe guy that won't win him anything but won't "lose" the game by making an egregious mistake. He's made a few of these ultra conservative "un-CSP" decisions that are concerning.


Actually drafting a guy at 40 is the real mistake here


Trade Shough now while there is possibly still some intrigue and his value isn’t crashed. Win your 4-5 games and take a QB in the top 5
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:07 am to
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Trade Shough now while there is possibly still some intrigue and his value isn’t crashed. Win your 4-5 games and take a QB in the top 5



Fair thought process but I seriously doubt they go that route
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12505 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:33 am to
lol, that's horrible reasoning... shough isn't competing with 2024 rattler. He's competing with 2025 rattler, who is middle of the pack. This certainly isn't a ringing endorsement for rattler, and it isn't for shough, who can't unseat him, but at least be fair.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:53 am to
I didn’t know Shough was a time traveler in order to compete with 2025 Rattler for the starting job

He lost the starting job to 0-5, 57% completing, 4 TD 5 INT, 2024 worst QB in the NFL Rattler

He’s now unable to unseat 1-4, bottom 10 QB in the league 2025 Rattler

That is just facts. Nothing unfair about it
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12505 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:12 pm to
Here's the 2 guys directly above and below him in passing categories...

Passer rating...
#20 Daniels
#21 Herbert
#22 rattler
#23 Murray
#24 nix

QBR...
#16 maye
#17 Williams
#18 rattler
#19 Murray
#20 Wilson
Darnold, Lawrence, nix, and Daniels all below.

Comp %...
#13 Murray
#14 hurts
#15 rattler
#16 fields
#17 Stafford

Yds/att...
#29 dart
#30 Murray
#31 rattler
#32 young
#33 ward

Td%...
#28 smith
#29 Lawrence
#30 rattler
#31 Wilson
#32 penix

Int%...
#1 fields/daniels
#3 rattler/hurts/mayfield

Looking at this tells me either he or Moore is telling him to don't turn the ball over. It would be a whole lot easier to judge rattler if we knew the answer to this. Still though, I think rattler is about where you'd expect a qb that doesn't have a full season of starts yet.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12505 posts
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:19 pm to
Now don't get me wrong, I wanna see shough play Sunday. While I think rattler is a decent qb, I want more than that. I think we will see shough pretty soon unless rattler steps it up a notch. In the end, I expect we draft a qb top 5.
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