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This is a QB league

Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:13 pm
If you don’t have a top QB you really not going anywhere point blank
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:14 pm to
It’s not that many teams won a superbowl without a top QB
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6716 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:15 pm to
Vikings 4-0
Hawks 3-0
Bucs 3-1
Pitt 3-1

It's more nuanced than that
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1529 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:16 pm to
I’m talking playoffs and superbowl not regular season
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:18 pm to
I’m willing to bet not one of them will win superbowl
Posted by Riverparishbaw
Montz
Member since Sep 2020
326 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:19 pm to
Very few qb's are good against the blitz. Brees begged people to blitz him because he knew his offensive line was stout. If you have a good offensive line, your QB will be better than average.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1529 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:20 pm to
That is true
Posted by FireGoodell
Member since Mar 2019
8688 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:20 pm to
Last years NFC championship was between Brock Purdy and Jared Goff

You can definitely win with an average QB if you have a good team and good coaching
Posted by Riverparishbaw
Montz
Member since Sep 2020
326 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:22 pm to
Right and Detroit's offensive line is the strength of the team.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1529 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:23 pm to
Yes you can but look at history of game most successful teams had really good qb
Posted by FireGoodell
Member since Mar 2019
8688 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:28 pm to
Yes but todays NFL is watered down at the QB position there aren’t a lot of elite guys

Previous era had 4 elite first ballot HOF’ers in Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers. Mahomes is the only current QB you could put in that category
Posted by Riverparishbaw
Montz
Member since Sep 2020
326 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:33 pm to
I'll probably get downvoted for this. Mahomes is a good QB, no doubt. Love to have him on the Saints, but I hesitate with giving him all the accolades he gets. He retreats from the pocket very quickly. In fact, most times he's not getting any pressure and he moves out the pocket. I know that's his style, but a disciplined defense will give him fits. Also, the Chiefs live and die by yards after the catch. They run a lot of wr screens and quick passes, look at the stats. Tyreek Hill was the best YAC receiver year after year.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1529 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:54 pm to
No doubt but I’m a fan of Josh Allen and Joe burrow
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1529 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:56 pm to
Not disagreeing with your take but guy make those it plays for chiefs when they need him
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:58 pm to
Agreed. Mahomes honestly isn’t that great. Good, but not great. DC4 is just as talented if not more.
Posted by Riverparishbaw
Montz
Member since Sep 2020
326 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:01 pm to
Rice was leading the league in YAC through three games.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1529 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:02 pm to
So where do you rank mahomes?
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36315 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:04 pm to
So Russell Wilson, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Brock Purdy, Carson Wentz, Nick Folse, Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman, Matt Ryan, Jake Delhomme, Colin Kaepernick and Matt Hasselbeck, Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, Chris Chandler and Trent Dilfer are all top QBs? Because all those guys have played in a Super Bowl in the last 20 years or so.
Posted by FireGoodell
Member since Mar 2019
8688 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:06 pm to
I think you guys are having a little bit of recency bias because the chiefs offense hasn’t been great this year or last year, mainly due to personnel

Just 2 years ago Mahomes threw for 5k yards 40 TD’s, won the MVP and won the Super Bowl.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74480 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:08 pm to
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Agreed. Mahomes honestly isn’t that great. Good, but not great. DC4 is just as talented if not more.


Been saying it for years

Moreau > Kelce too. They just have Andy Reed
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