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The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:07 pm
The New Orleans Saints entered the season on a treadmill of mediocrity. Three straight years of 7-9 meant the team was not good enough for the playoffs and not quite bad enough to give up and rebuild. But the party has returned to Bourbon Street this season as New Orleans has won seven straight games and, according to FiveThirtyEight’s predictions, now has an 88 percent chance of making the playoffs. But perhaps most surprising is how the Saints are winning games. They are doing the most un-Saintly of things: running all over teams.
Drew Brees and the Saints have never been shy about scoring an obscene number of points, traditionally through their passing attack. But the 2017 version of this offense is being spearheaded by a duo of running backs, veteran Mark Ingram and rookie Alvin Kamara. The league has not seen a two-headed monster like this in quite some time — in fact, the pair is on pace to be the most productive backfield tandem in nearly 40 years.
Through nine weeks, Ingram and Kamara have tallied 1,654 yards from scrimmage (rushing and receiving) and are currently on pace for nearly 3,000 combined yards, with Ingram on pace for 1,536 yards and Kamara for 1,404. To put this production in perspective, consider that there have been only 10 pairs of backfield mates since the 16-game era began in 1978 who each totaled at least 1,200 yards from scrimmage, according to Pro-Football-Reference.com. This last happened in 2009, when Jonathan Stewart and DeAngelo Williams did it for the Panthers. But that duo combined for only 2,641 yards — 300 fewer than the projected output of Ingram and Kamara. The only backfield pair to top the Saints’ duo’s 16-game pace was Walter Payton (1,875 yards) and Roland Harper (1,332 yards), with a total of 3,207 for the 1978 Bears.
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:09 pm to hsfolk
Better than the Falcons' tandem from last year?
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:10 pm to El Campo Tiger
Definitely better than the falcons tandem from this year
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:22 pm to El Campo Tiger
Last year ATL's duo combined for 2,482 total yards and 24 touchdowns.
Doesn't look like they'll catch the TD totals from last year but yardage wise they should eclipse ATL's 2016 mark.
Remarkable turnaround down in NOLA.
Doesn't look like they'll catch the TD totals from last year but yardage wise they should eclipse ATL's 2016 mark.
Remarkable turnaround down in NOLA.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:26 pm to hsfolk
I’m just so happy I no longer have to yell about Cadet getting snaps
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:30 pm to BenDover
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Last year ATL's duo combined for 2,482 total yards and 24 touchdowns.
Doesn't look like they'll catch the TD totals from last year
They just scored 4 TDs in a game. Let's see how it plays out. They have 13 on the year. Can they get 11 TDs total over 7 games? I think so. They need to average a little more than 1.5 TDs per remaining game between the 2 of them.
I think this team has found it's identity and a big part of that is these 2 players.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:59 pm to hsfolk
Love those two, complement each other perfectly because they're both very good at their roles. You can't predict the play either.
But I will give props to the OL.
The bitching fan base sound like dallas' when it came to 1st round linemen.
Peat and Ramcyzk are huge reasons why we've been so good.
Martin and Frederick are huge reasons why Dallas was so good too. People whined like crazy when those two were drafted as well.
But I will give props to the OL.
The bitching fan base sound like dallas' when it came to 1st round linemen.
Peat and Ramcyzk are huge reasons why we've been so good.
Martin and Frederick are huge reasons why Dallas was so good too. People whined like crazy when those two were drafted as well.
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 4:03 pm to hsfolk
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But the party has returned to Bourbon Street this season
Holy Cringe
Posted on 11/15/17 at 4:18 pm to burke985
Better than the falcons tandem from next year?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 4:41 am to hsfolk
The new Thunder and Lightning
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:49 am to hsfolk
I'm sure it's happened before, but I can't ever think of seeing a drive that lasted 10 plays, went for over 90 yards, without a single pass even being attempted, and it resulted in a touchdown.
Crazy.
Crazy.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:10 am to mark65mc
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They just scored 4 TDs in a game. Let's see how it plays out. They have 13 on the year. Can they get 11 TDs total over 7 games? I think so. They need to average a little more than 1.5 TDs per remaining game between the 2 of them.
Yes it's 7 games but they have scored 13 TD's so far mostly behind an incomplete OL. If the OL stays healthy I can definitely see multiple TD games from the 2. All that said just keep winning and destroy the Falcons. It would be nice to break it against them.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:19 am to htran90
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Love those two, complement each other perfectly because they're both very good at their roles. You can't predict the play either.
Agreed. This and the great OL play has completely transformed this offense.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:59 pm to Brageous
Saints just poached another talented back from the buffalo bills as well.
Jonathan Williams has potential. Watched him for 3 years while he was at ARKY.
Jonathan Williams has potential. Watched him for 3 years while he was at ARKY.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 5:52 am to William G
These two are great fun to watch, but not better than Hank Stram’s Thunder & Lightning; Tony Galbreth & Chuck Muncie. FWIW, the first T&L were Tony Baker & Andy Livingston in 1969.
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:29 am to William G
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Saints just poached another talented back from the buffalo bills as well.
Jonathan Williams has potential. Watched him for 3 years while he was at ARKY.
Outside of the big run by Edmunds, I didn't get the sense of NFL starting talent from him. I wonder of Williams can be though, he was supposed to backup shady
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