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re: So what happens when Ivory returns?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:50 pm to John McClane
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:50 pm to John McClane
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JLSIX
Haha your reasoning is laughable. What does being a heisman winner have to do with the NFL? Reggie Bush was stellar in CFB....
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Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:51 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:you do understand the irony, right?
baseless
your entire opinion is baseless b/c you are relying on statistics....of a different season....against different teams....running different plays....
You bear the burden of Ivory being the better running back and you need more than those irrelevant statistics. Based on their football careers as to now, I'll take Ingram. We'll see how it plays out.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:51 pm to John McClane
quote:
statistics are unreliable. you know that. the only way we could have any sense of reliability right now would be Ivory and Ingram's numbers playing in the same role THIS SEASON. That's all I'm saying and it's pretty simple. Any other comparison is erroneous.
Then it would be erroneous to say Sproles is better than Bush, right?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:52 pm to Gugich22
quote:so in a totality of the circumstances sort of way I'm unreasonable for touting a rookie's heisman trophy as proof of greatness when you are relying on irrelevant statistics?
really? you're saying because he won the heisman that he's a better rb than ivory?
wow...you really are an imbecile.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:52 pm to John McClane
So how do we know Drew Brees is better than Mark Sanchez?
Or do we?
Or do we?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:53 pm to John McClane
4 pages and this thread is nothing like i thought it would be when i created it 
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:53 pm to John McClane
and stats from CFB - which won Ingram the Heisman - are somehow relevant in this argument?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:54 pm to THRILLHO
quote:completely different situation. both guys have what, 6 to 8 years respectively in the NFL? Come on man.
Then it would be erroneous to say Sproles is better than Bush, right?
If you honestly think Ivory is better than Ingram you are entitled to your opinion. We'll see how it plays out. My money is on Ingram.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:55 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:they played the same position on the same team?
So how do we know Drew Brees is better than Mark Sanchez?
Or do we?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:57 pm to John McClane
so the only way to ever really know if one player is better than another is if they play the same position on the same team?
This post was edited on 10/2/11 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:57 pm to John McClane
quote:
completely different situation. both guys have what, 6 to 8 years respectively in the NFL? Come on man.
By your logic, Bush is better because he won the heisman.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:57 pm to John McClane
Dude you're getting killed in this thread 
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:58 pm to Gugich22
quote:your argument is based on statistics. mine is based on my opinion. your statistics just aren't reliable. apples to oranges. we'll see how it plays out. I've just been calling out the conclusive nature of yall's misguided conclusions. Ingram will have a much better career than Ivory.
and stats from CFB - which won Ingram the Heisman - are somehow relevant in this argument?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:58 pm to John McClane
Have Ivory and Ingram played the same position on the same team? Ivory hasn't played with the Saints since Ingram was drafted.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:58 pm to John McClane
Ivory looked better last year than Ingram this year. And i like both backs a lot. Its hard to say Ingram has looked better or equal.
The only thing is Ivory's injuries. But if he only has 5-7 carries a game in short yardage he could probably hold up most of the season.
These are 2 Saints players who are both very talented. I dont see the point in arguing who is better after such a small sample size
The only thing is Ivory's injuries. But if he only has 5-7 carries a game in short yardage he could probably hold up most of the season.
These are 2 Saints players who are both very talented. I dont see the point in arguing who is better after such a small sample size
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:58 pm to John McClane
quote:
Ingram will have a much better career than Ivory
not a single person in this thread is arguing that he won't...
Posted on 10/2/11 at 7:59 pm to Gugich22
quote:holy shite.
so the only way to ever really know if one player is better than another is if they play the same position on the same team?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 8:00 pm to John McClane
quote:
I've just been calling out the conclusive nature of yall's misguided conclusions.
then
quote:
Ingram will have a much better career than Ivory.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 8:01 pm to John McClane
quote:
so the only way to ever really know if one player is better than another is if they play the same position on the same team?
holy shite.
is that you actually realizing how dumb your logic is?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 8:01 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
These are 2 Saints players who are both very talented. I dont see the point in arguing who is better after such a small sample size
This is what I agree with. The sample size is too small to make a conclusion. It's also not the same team right now.
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