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re: So Brees is the NFL leader in yards, TDs, comp%; is 13-3, yet isnt the MVP?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:26 am to shel311
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:26 am to shel311
Go back and quote me where I said "Whoever has the most passing touchdowns should win MVP every year"
or if I said "More passing touchdowns is better than less".
or if I said "More passing touchdowns is better than less".
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:26 am to Breesus
quote:he didn't say that.he said he wanted the one more TD pass.
There is a differnce between wanting more touchdown passes than less touchdown passes and choosing a QB based solely on that stat numbnuts..
You can spin it any way you like, but his argument was boxed in. no question. his entire premise changed.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:27 am to SLTiger29
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What about when player C replaces player A and accounts for more TDs and yards in a game than player A has done in the four years he's been starting?
When we are talking about whose most "valuable", then, yeah, I'm going with player B-rees.
of course you would because you are a Saint-tard and you are letting your like of the QB for your team cloud your judgement. Setting single game records for a particular franchise, in a meaningless game is completely irrelevant. Billy Volek and Vince Ferragamo (how many of you know who that is?
) Both threw for more yards in a game than Matt Flynn did today. That means absolutely nothing. 
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:29 am to H-Town Tiger
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That means absolutely nothing.
Matt Flynn did something Aaron Rodgers was never able to do with the exact same players around him in the same season. You argue like a retard.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:29 am to shel311
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his entire premise changed.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:29 am to SLTiger29
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Do you even understand the "Most Valuable Player" arguement we're making? It has dick to do with numbers
Then why are you bring up so many numbers? What are you basing this value on?
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. It has something to do with the word "valuable". It doesn't matter if Aaron Rodgers is a bettter quarterback than Drew Brees. It matters which player is more valuable to their team.
Which is entirely subjective. How do you define valuable? What are you basing it on?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:30 am to SLTiger29
quote:I did already. you said you wanted more TD passes, obviously because you thought it was better then less.you made zero mention of any other reason why you'd take more TDs.
or if I said "More passing touchdowns is better than less".
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:31 am to shel311
Dude, you were making some bullshite arguement about whatever you were arguing about. I narrowed it down. I never said "MVP should be based on this and this only."
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:32 am to H-Town Tiger
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Setting single game records for a particular franchise, in a meaningless game is completely irrelevant
this is quite possibly the most asinine statement I've ever seen typed on a message board.
You do realize that if it was meaningless, the Packers would've just laid down and lost, right?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:33 am to SLTiger29
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Dude, you were making some bull shite arguement about whatever you were arguing about. I narrowed it down. I never said "MVP should be based on this and this only."
I quoted what you said, that is not making shite up.
You said it, own it.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:33 am to H-Town Tiger
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That means absolutely nothing.
Aaron Rodgers' best game of his career doesn't beat Matt Flynn's only game of this season. Same players, same coaches, common opponent. When we are talking about who is more valuable to their team, it does mean something.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:34 am to H-Town Tiger
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H-Town Tiger
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$100,000 is more than $99,000. I'd gladly take the $99,000 over the $100,000 if it meant I got to work 1 less hour a day
I want you to answer this:
What if it was one less day out of the entire year, and What if you were able to be the first person in your company's history to make $100,000 and it would mean years of endorsements and lucrative salary the next few years of your career?
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 12:36 am
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:34 am to H-Town Tiger
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Which is entirely subjective
that's kind of the point. You guys that are trying to make this out to be cut and dry and by the numbers don't realize that just because you have the better numbers doesn't mean you get the award.
It's also entirely stupid that a co-mvp isn't even thought of. It's either one or the other? Maybe one deserves it more but it's not like neither do.
For that matter, both have ridiculous numbers. Brees is just more valuable than Rodgers. The Packers without Rodgers are nothing like what the Saints would be without Brees.
Both are valuable to their teams.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 12:38 am
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:37 am to Breesus
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Matt Flynn did something Aaron Rodgers was never able to do with the exact same players around him in the same season. You argue like a retard
Now that's rich, take a look at the part in bold. You really think Rodgers was not "able" to do that? If so its you my friend that's the retard. Rodgers has had 400 yd games, at a certain level a few extra yards is meaningless.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:38 am to H-Town Tiger
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You really think Rodgers was not "able" to do that?
Yes. If he was he would have done it.
Also, stop avoiding my $100,000 question and answer it.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 12:39 am
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:41 am to Breesus
You don't think Brees is able to throw for 500 yards in one game?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:41 am to H-Town Tiger
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at a certain level a few extra yards is meaningless
I'm sure that's what every NFL player thinks, that just a few extra yards at this level is meaningless. Never mind that it translates into dollar signs at a basic comprehensive level *facepalm*
Chris Johnson's rushing yardage last year didn't matter. LT never thought his yardage mattered at the end of the year. Sean Payton was never concerned about extra yards to break a record that has stood for 20 plus years.
frick, you can't get any more stupid than you have in this thread. :goestochangesig"
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:42 am to SLTiger29
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OK. Now I understand. Brees making his teammates better players has absolutely nothing to do with his value to his team.
Got ya.
Nope, you clearly see only what you want to see. Do you honestly think Brady and Rodgers don't make the players around them better? What did Welker do before he played with NE?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:42 am to shel311
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You don't think Brees is able to throw for 500 yards in one game?
you don't think rodgers can throw for 1000 yards in one game?
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:43 am to jdrumdog
I'm starting to think David Akers should win the MVP this year.
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