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re: So Brees is the NFL leader in yards, TDs, comp%; is 13-3, yet isnt the MVP?

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Posted by STERLING
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:02 am to
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Bress threw more touchdown passes than Rodgers in the 2011 NFL Regular season. You deny that?

Do you even understand the percentage argument that we're making? Kerry Collins has more passing yards than Joe Montana, therefore he's better. Is that how it works?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:02 am to
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Brees didn't play the whole game, so......

Rodgers didn't play a game, no chance for more turnovers so.....

lol, silly rabbit.

huh?
Posted by jdrumdog
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:03 am to
LINK

written before today's games, but worth a read. Again, for those using the strictly numbers argument, educate yourselves.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:03 am to
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Kerry Collins has more passing yards than Joe Montana, therefore he's better. Is that how it works?
mega boom
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:03 am to
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$100,000 is more than $99,000. I'd gladly take the $99,000 over the $100,000 if it meant I got to work 1 less hour a day


What if you were able to be the first person in your company's history to make $100,000 and it would mean years of endorsements and lucrative salary the next few years of your career?
Posted by jdrumdog
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:04 am to
not so much, that's a horrible strawman argument.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:04 am to
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What the f*ck does this even mean?
the analogy shouldn't be that hard to understand.

Posted by STERLING
Member since Sep 2009
721 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:04 am to
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Brees didn't play the whole game, so......

Rodgers didn't play a game, no chance for more turnovers so.....

Hence, why we're using % in the debate.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:04 am to
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Kerry Collins has more passing yards than Joe Montana, therefore he's better. Is that how it works?


Was this in the same season? Was Kerry Collins also more accurate? Was Kerry Collins playing on the most prolific offense in NFL history? Were they extremely close in number of TD's? Were they the best 2 QB's that year? Were they competing for MVP?
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 12:06 am
Posted by SLTiger29
Galliano, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:05 am to
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Do you even understand the percentage argument that we're making? Kerry Collins has more passing yards than Joe Montana, therefore he's better. Is that how it works?


Do you even understand the "Most Valuable Player" arguement we're making? It has dick to do with numbers. It has something to do with the word "valuable". It doesn't matter if Aaron Rodgers is a bettter quarterback than Drew Brees. It matters which player is more valuable to their team.

That's Drew Brees without breaking a sweat.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:05 am to
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huh?


get smart.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:07 am to
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get
I am.

Get mature
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:07 am to
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Hence, why we're using % in the debate.


I think you missed the word "valuable" in the award's title.

percentage is based off of a probability system, which is still fractal based. I can provide you some calculative links if you need them.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:07 am to
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Do you want the player A who accounted for 48 TDs or player B who accounted for 47 TDs? A or B?

Bump
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:08 am to
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Get mature


irony. Never gets old.
Posted by jdrumdog
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:08 am to
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Bump


useless.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:09 am to
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Do you want the player A who accounted for 48 TDs or player B who accounted for 47 TDs? A or B?


I never choose players based solely on one stat.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:09 am to
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irony. Never gets old.
I'm not mature cause I disagree with you? Lol.

Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:10 am to
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I'm not mature cause I disagree with you?


another strawman. next. I didn't say you disagreed with me. I'll need a link.

You just might need to read some, that's all. Facts are amazing.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 12:11 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:10 am to
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I'm not mature cause I disagree with you? Lol.






No youre not mature cause your balls havent dropped yet.
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