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re: So Brees is the NFL leader in yards, TDs, comp%; is 13-3, yet isnt the MVP?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:49 pm to STERLING
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:49 pm to STERLING
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I know, those pesky %
When the frick did a QBs batting average become a fricking stat? I give a frick if it takes Brees 500 attempts a game. If your giving me one TD per 100 attempts, thats still five touchdowns a game.
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:50 pm to shel311
quote:
are you actually saying you'd prefer 46 TD passes to 45
Do I want more touchdown passes instead of less touchdown passes?
Yes, I do.
This post was edited on 1/1/12 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:51 pm to SLTiger29
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Saying stupid stuff like if the Saints had two good TEs like New England does Graham wouldn't have the record is the equivalent of you throwing in the towel.
Harping on a technical error and completely missing the broader point is outright proof you know you have lost the argument.
Whoopee fricking do, I didn't hear Gronkowski passed Graham a few minutes after Graham set the record. Not knowing a record was broke a few hours ago is hardly saying stupid stuff.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:51 pm to SLTiger29
quote:when I stopped letting espn decide what stats are important.
When the frick did a QBs batting average become a fricking stat
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
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It has always been based on performance, who is most "valuable" is entirely subjective and impossible to tell. It is entirely reasonable to look at stats and say the guy who has better efficiency stats and plays of the top team is most "valuable".
it's been partially based on performance...to say it's not is asinine. I think we all agree that has something to do with it. That's why the numbers arguments aren't exactly befitting of what the history of the award has been, now does it? Have you happened to take a look at the last 5 to 10 years and the hx of the award winners and their respective seasons?
If you're going to argue, don't topple your argumentative ideals in one fell swoop.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:52 pm to SLTiger29
Rodgers gives you a much better chance at getting that coveted TD. You deny that?
This post was edited on 1/1/12 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
No, I got the point. The point you were making was that if Brees had two options at TE like Brady does then Graham wouldn't have had the record, which was wrong, and The greater point you were making was that Jimmy Graham breaking a receiving yards record has nothing to do with who was passing him the football, which was stupid.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:55 pm to SLTiger29
quote:
Do I want more touchdown passes instead of less touchdown passes?
Yes, I do.
Rodgers has 48 total TDs to Brees 47 and he did it less games and attempts.
$100,000 is more than $99,000. I'd gladly take the $99,000 over the $100,000 if it meant I got to work 1 less hour a day.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:55 pm to SLTiger29
quote:
Do I want more touchdown passes instead of less touchdown passes?
Yes, I do.
So you'd prefer a running back with 1200 yards on 400 Carries over a running back with 1175 yards on 200 Carries?
Yikes.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:56 pm to STERLING
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Rodgers gives you a much better chance a getting that coveted TD. You deny that?
Bress threw more touchdown passes than Rodgers in the 2011 NFL Regular season. You deny that?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:exactly,
Rodgers has 48 total TDs to Brees 47
How does he explain that away?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
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It is entirely reasonable to look at stats and say the guy who has better efficiency stats and plays of the top team is most "valuable".
"plays of the top team" - team record has nothing to do with it you shithead. Its an MVP award not an MVT award.
"efficiency stats" they are both remarkably efficient. Drew has more completions, more yards, a better completion percentage. Rodgers leads in some categories as well.
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who is most "valuable" is entirely subjective and impossible to tell.
wrong. Drew is more valuable. Flynn set some records for Green Bays Franchise today. No QB on the Saints roster other than Brees can run our offense much less set records. Drew is more valuable. Rodgers is a great quarterback, a suprebowl winner, and his team has a better record. however, Drew is the Most Valuable Player.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:58 pm to SLTiger29
quote:Rodgers had more TDs then Brees this season, so...
Bress threw more touchdown passes than Rodgers in the 2011 NFL Regular season. You deny that?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:58 pm to shel311
Do I want an extra 200 offensive snaps? Yes, I do.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
Another point just to consider about the "Rodgers played 1 less game" argument. Who's to say he wouldn't have turned the ball over 5 times today?
Is it likely? No, not really. But possible? Sure, we'll never know
Is it likely? No, not really. But possible? Sure, we'll never know
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:59 pm to shel311
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Rodgers had more TDs then Brees this season, so...
not passing...
And Drew Brees was more valuable to his team than Aaron Rodgers was, so...
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:59 pm to shel311
quote:
Do I want more touchdown passes instead of less touchdown passes?
Yes, I do.
quote:
So you'd prefer a running back with 1200 yards on 400 Carries over a running back with 1175 yards on 200 Carries?
Yikes.
What the f*ck does this even mean?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 11:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
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$100,000 is more than $99,000. I'd gladly take the $99,000 over the $100,000 if it meant I got to work 1 less hour a day
you can't use a Cowturd analogy and pose it as a legitimate talking point. that's a horrid attempt.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:01 am to shel311
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Rodgers had more TDs then Brees this season, so...
Brees didn't play the whole game, so......
Rodgers didn't play a game, no chance for more turnovers so.....
lol, silly rabbit.
Posted on 1/2/12 at 12:01 am to SLTiger29
Do you want the player A who accounted for 48 TDs or player B who accounted for 47 TDs?
A or B?
A or B?
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