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re: Shough rated most accurate QB
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:56 pm to SaintTigerPel
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:56 pm to SaintTigerPel
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There are no stats that show this, but the amount of dropped interceptions and/or INT’s thrown and called back by penalty, by Rattler are plenty
Shough has a higher int% and bad throw %.
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but we just can’t be watching the same games if you think that he looks more promising than Shough.
I think shough has looked more promising, i just need him to get better. More consistent. Spencer pressed towards the end of his starts and fell apart.
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:59 pm to jorconalx
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You either don’t know the game or skin color has gotten in the way of your judgement. I’m fairly certain I know which one
Its pretty clear you forgot Spencer playing some good ball. Needing to make it about race shows you have no proof otherwise.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:01 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Shough has a higher int% and bad throw %.
Again, there is so much more to that than the numbers. Watch Shough lead receivers for YAC and not lead them into major collisions. Rattler had so many completions that hit the guy in the gut for a 7 yard gain on 3rd and 12. I think we can just agree to disagree, but the hidden stats and immeasurables are far greater for Shough IMO. Obviously you feel the opposite.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:03 pm to SaintTigerPel
Rattler is the epitome of check down Charlie.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:07 pm to whatiknowsofar
Don't ignore my follow-up
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:11 pm to t00f
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Don't ignore my follow-up
I agree with you. Those are the wtf ints I was talking about. Hes had I think two should have been picks as well. The two in the Miami game were bad and the atl picks were bad too.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:12 pm to jorconalx
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Rattler is the epitome of check down Charlie.
Shough is averaging .5 ypa more than rattler.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:15 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Hes had I think two should have been picks as well
I mean, all QB's have those.
That Olave pick last weekend, I'd think Olave fricked that one up.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:15 pm to SaintTigerPel
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Watch Shough lead receivers for YAC and not lead them into major collisions. Rattler had so many completions that hit the guy in the gut for a 7 yard gain on 3rd and 12
Again, this is also a stat and shows that shough is about .5 yards better.
advanced passing stats
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:17 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Shough is averaging .5 ypa more than rattler.
Because of a few bombs, and a great deep threat in Shaheed. He would also have a ton of 3rd and longs after missing 2 throws on 1st and 2nd down. Rattler seemed to have 5 3 and outs before having 1 good drive, inflating the stats.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:18 pm to t00f
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I'd think Olave fricked that one up.
Shough said that was his fault post-game.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:20 pm to SaintTigerPel
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Because of a few bombs, and a great deep threat in Shaheed.
Olave is still a great deep threat and shough has missed a few deep balls to him as well.
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He would also have a ton of 3rd and longs after missing 2 throws on 1st and 2nd down
The frick he did. He completed 68% of his passes. Most of his third and longs were due to holds.
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Rattler seemed to have 5 3 and outs before having 1 good drive, inflating the stats.
Sweet Jesus this is what I'm talking about. Revisionist history at its finest. Shough averages more 3 and outs a game than rattler. Against a weaker schedule.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:23 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I'd think Olave fricked that one up.
Shough said that was his fault post-game.
what else would the leader of the team say? Throw Olave under the bus?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:23 pm to whatiknowsofar
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his fault
Fell on the sword for Olave.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:27 pm to NIH
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Fell on the sword for Olave.
No way the rookie made the wrong read! It was the 3rd year veteran that screwed up lol
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:28 pm to t00f
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what else would the leader of the team say
"It was a miscommunication, we weren't on the same page"
No blame assignment in that possible quote. Why is it so hard to fathom that a rookie made the wrong read?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:32 pm to whatiknowsofar
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No blame assignment in that possible quote. Why is it so hard to fathom that a rookie made the wrong read?
Because he called the play, it was not a read. Olave was on a man-to-man as well
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:36 pm to whatiknowsofar
For me as easy at it was on the WR.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:37 pm to whatiknowsofar
You’re a PR guy now?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:37 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Its pretty clear you forgot Spencer playing some good ball.
He had 4 total TD’s over his last 5 games. If this is considered “good ball” for him, I’d hate to see when he struggles.
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