re: Saints Talk Draft Project: The Dirty Dozen for #27

INPO

Cooks
OBJ
Matthews
Lee
Ebron
Mosley
Ealy
Verrett
Fuller
Roby
Ford
Donald

Honestly unless one of the first 15, Mosley, or Lee falls I think/want the Saints to go Shazier.

I seriously don't get the Cooks love. Not saying he's not a good player but do you guys seriously want our top 2 WR threats in a couple of years to be 6'0" and 5'10"? As some other poster said in a thread earlier in the week, Cooks is definitely this year's ST Jarvis Jones. I'd much rather Matthews, Benjamin, or Lee(who I think is being very underrated and better than Cooks anyways) if we go WR with our first pick. Hell my personal preference would be somebody like Shazier in the first and Mocrief of Matthews, if he fell, in the second.

It's not that I'm not a fan, I think he can have a good career depending on where he goes. I'm just not a fan of him on the Saints.

When he's 5'10" and our other WR opposite of him is barely 6 feet and we gotta play a secondary like the Seahawks, etc in the playoffs in the coming years, yeah, yeah I would say he would be.

Colston's productive year's are limited, and as much as I want him to succeed it doesn't look like Toon has it. I'd much rather get a big physical WR.

Now, if hypotheticaly, we replaced Stills with a big WR that we already had then yes, I'd be all for drafting Cooks if he fell to 27.

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I just think you're putting too much importance on height.

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Found the midget.

Benjamin is poo

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Ask Denver how there big receiving threats worked out

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Spot on.

As everyone knows I've been pimpin ad nauseam explosive YAC WR's or RB's with some wiggle and speed for this offence.

Its coming!

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Ask Denver how there big receiving threats worked out.

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Which SEA WR would you trade for Demaryius Thomas?

First, Seattle has something we don't which was huge for them..Marshawn Lynch. None of our RBs come even close to that. Kind of like our passing game in recent years is equivalent to their running game, and vice versa. They have stud(s) at their respective unit and so do we, and the other unit it made up of misfit toys more or less. Seattle never really relied on the passing game because that wasn't who they were.

The only teams Seattle played last year with a secondary remotely equivalent to Seattle's were the Cardinals and 49ers. In the 5 games they played against those teams Wilson threw a whopping 25 times a game for 177 yards and a 54% completion percentage, but in those same games Seatlle averaged 30 rushes for 122 yards and 1 TD per game...that's not gonna fly for the Saints, that's just not the way they play football. I think you could argue Seattle won the SB IN SPITE of their WR core.

I really do think Seattle's WRs are the anomaly, that's not something teams should strive to copy for because Seattle had such an exceptional run game and defense it masked it. And I know your point about a WR like D. Thomas falling to 26 Bur you don't know. If I'm not mistaken he was taken in the 20s of his draft. You also kinda discredited your own point about needing speed and not size to beat teams like Seattle when you went on to say Thomas was the only Denver WR who played well. What about Welker? I think you're underestimating Seattles speed at all levels of the defense, that's why they were so good. They protected the field endzone to endzone, sideline to sideline better than any team in football. I don't think speed is the answer, because if you make one guys miss, there's a few more a couple of yards away waiting, usually.

I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree, but I definitely see yalls point. I personally would just rather a big, physical threat who can exchange blows with these bigger corners and safeties and come out on top.